should have asked will my kia optima hybrid still run even if the hybrid battery is disconnected and can it be disconnected ?

Asked by May 19, 2016 at 08:04 PM about the 2012 Kia Optima Hybrid Premium

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Sorry, ABOUT THE LONG READ WELCOME TO HYBRIDS!!! This is Complex I'm not a lawyer. First basic safety... Kia Optima Hybrid Emergency Response Quick Reference.. Page 1 SAFETY FirST This Emergency Response Guide requires the responder to work closely with a high voltage battery. In order to maximize safety, the emergency response personnel should remove all metallic objects on your person, including but not limited to watches, body piercings, pins, buttons, bracelets, etc., in order to reduce the risk of electrical arcing and potential electrocution. In addition, those emergency response personnel who use metallic medical device, such as pacemakers, insulin pumps, etc., should be aware of the potential risks of working closely with a high voltage battery. Within this Emergency Response Guide you will find Notices, Cautions, Warnings and Dangers which provide critical information and help you do your job safely and efficiently. Below are the definitions of these terms. When you see a Notice, Caution, Warning or Danger, be certain you understand the message before you attempt to perform any part of an emergency response procedure. NOTiCE A Notice alerts you to a situation which, if not avoided, could result in vehicle damage. CAuTiON A Caution alerts you to a hazardous situation which, if not avoided, could result in minor or moderate injury. WArNiNg A Warning alerts you to a hazardous situation which, if not avoided, could result in death or serious injury. DANgEr A Danger alerts you to a hazardous situation which, if not avoided will result in death or serious injury. Page 3 Table of Contents Kia Optima Hybrid Emergency Response Guide i Topic Page Kia Optima Hybrid Emergency Response Quick Reference…. 1 1.0 Introduction…………………………………………………………… 4 1.1 Document Purpose 1.2 Vehicle Description 2.0 Kia Optima Hybrid Identification………………………………….. 5 2.1 General Vehicle Description 2.2 Identifying a Kia Optima Hybrid 2.2.1 “HYBRID” Badge on Trunk…………………………………………… 6 2.2.2 “HYBRID” Badge on Engine Cover………………………………….. 7 2.2.3 VIN Number……………………………………………………………. 8 2.2.4 High Voltage Components…………………………………………… 9 2.2.5 Warning Labels………………………………………………………... 10 2.2.6 High Voltage Orange Cabling………………………………………... 11 2.2.7 Hybrid Cluster Instrument Panel…………………………………….. 13 3.0 Emergency Procedures…………………………………………….. 14 3.1 Initial Response: Identify, Immobilize and Disable 3.1.1 Identify 3.1.2 Immobilize……………………………………………………………… 15 3.1.3 Disable………………………………………………………………….. 16 3.2 Disabling the System – Smart Key and Engine START/STOP Button…………………………………………………………………… 17 3.2.1 Safe Disconnect of the 12V Battery…………………………………. 18 3.3 Disabling the System – PDM2 Relay Removal…………………….. 19 3.4 Disabling the System – HEV Safety Plug………………………...... 20 Page 4 Table of Contents ii Kia Optima Hybrid Emergency Response Guide 3.5 Extraction Operations…………………………………………………. 21 3.6 Potential Hazards 3.6.1 Personal Protection Equipment (PPE) 3.6.2 Flammable Fluids 3.6.3 Undeployed Airbags and Pretensioners……………………………. 22 3.6.4 Electric Shock Potential………………………………………………. 24 3.6.5 High Voltage Battery Electrolyte 3.6.6 12V Auxiliary Battery Electrolyte 3.7 Vehicle Stabilization…………………………………………………... 25 3.8 Extrication Equipment and Techniques 3.9 Vehicle Fire…………………………………………………………….. 26 3.10 Hybrid Battery Air Intake 3.11 Submerged or Partially Submerged Vehicles……………………… 27 4.0 Roadside Assistance Procedures………………………………… 28 4.1 General Towing 4.2 What If the Vehicle Shuts Off 4.3 To Jump Start the Car………………………………………………… 29 4.4 Additional 12V Battery Information 4.5 Towing – In the Event of An Accident………………………………. 30 Page 5 Quick Reference Kia Optima Hybrid Emergency Response Guide 1 Kia Optima Hybrid Emergency Response Quick Reference Step One: Approaching the Vehicle When approaching the vehicle, always assume the vehicle is powered up. The Kia Optima Hybrid uses a 270V DC voltage system. When the system is powered up, you can be exposed to high voltage currents in excess of 300 Volts! Unprotected contact with any electrically charged high-voltage component can cause serious injury or death. ALWAYS follow your existing training and your incident commander’s direction. Electrocution Risk • Never assume the Kia Optima Hybrid is shut off because it is silent, or engine noise is not present. • If possible, observe the instrument cluster for the READY indicator status to verify whether the vehicle is on or shut off. • Failure to shut off and disable the vehicle before emergency response procedures are performed may result in serious injury or death from severe burns and electric shock from the high voltage electrical system, or from accidental deployment of the airbag system. • Exposed cables or wires may be visible inside or outside the vehicle. Never touch the wires or cables before disabling the system, to prevent injury or DEATH due to electrical shock. Step Two: Identifying a Kia Optima Hybrid (Details on Page 5) You can identify the Kia Optima Hybrid as a hybrid vehicle through the following methods: 1) “HYBRID” badge on trunk of vehicle (details on page 6) 2) “HYBRID” badge on engine cover (details on page 7) 3) VIN Number (details on page 8) 4) High Voltage Components (details on page 9) 5) High Voltage Warning Labels (details on page 10) 6) High Voltage Orange Cabling (details on page 11) 7) Hybrid Cluster Instrument Panel (details on page 13 High Voltage Orange Cabling The High Voltage cabling is orange per SAE standard. Cables run from the rear of the vehicle where they connect the High Voltage Battery to the Hybrid Controller, Motor, A/C Compressor, and other High Voltage components at the front of the vehicle. The presence of orange cables under the hood, in the trunk battery compartment, or orange shielding under the car, identifies the vehicle as a hybrid. Electrocution Risk In the event of a shutdown, the “Check Charging System” message will illuminate on the instrument cluster, and a chime will sound. Electrocution Risk Always assume there is power to the system, even if you suspect the sensing system has disabled the high voltage battery. Ensure the vehicle is disabled before performing extraction (see above). 3.6. Potential Hazards Please be aware of the following potential hazards, and always take the appropriate safety measures as outlined in your training and specified by your incident commander’s direction. 3.6.1 Personal Protection Equipment (PPE) To ensure safety, wear Personal Protection Equipment (Insulation Gloves and Safety Glasses), and use HV insulated tools when working with the Kia Optima Hybrid. Electrocution Risk Do not carry any metallic objects such as a watch or jewelry, as these can cause short circuits to occur. Always make sure that protective gear is not damaged and is free from any tears or moisture. 3.6.2 Flammable Fluids Gasoline: 17.2 Gallons (65 liters) Engine Oil: 4.76 Quarts (4.5 liters) Automatic Transaxle Fluid: 6.87 Quarts (6.5 liters) The Question for the LAWYER is will the EPA allow an owner to bypass the FEDERAL EMISSION system yes, the Battery is included in it... to be tampered with and or altered / disabled without penalty or fines as a result of these Federal statutes. Regards

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That's a long drawn out way too say no. But has anyone actually tried it? Hybrids are not very popular here and those that are here get refereed to the dealers. None of the local shops want to work on them yet.

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