Used Toyota RAV4 Hybrid for Sale near Madera, CA
188 results
- Year:
- 2024
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Silver
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 18,917
- Stock #:
- 5201P
- VIN:
- 2T3LWRFV4RW250837
Sponsored by Modesto Toyota
2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
LE AWD
18,917 mi
$36,046
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 51,392
- Stock #:
- 77074A
- VIN:
- JTMMWRFV9PD570704
-$1,199
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2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
LE AWD
51,392 mi
$31,869
$30,670
- Year:
- 2018
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- White
- Combined gas mileage:
- 32 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 89,889
- Stock #:
- 7350
- VIN:
- JTMDJREV5JD217058
Sponsored Listing
2018 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
Limited AWD
89,889 mi
$22,798
- Year:
- 2019
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- White (Blizzard Pearl)
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Light Gray
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 87,205
- Stock #:
- 362540A
- VIN:
- JTMDWRFV9KD520703
2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
Limited AWD
87,205 mi
$25,852
- Year:
- 2021
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- White (Blizzard Pearl)
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 100,722
- Stock #:
- MH7165A
- VIN:
- 4T3D6RFV3MU038315
-$1,001
2021 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
Limited AWD
100,722 mi
$28,998
$27,997
- Year:
- 2021
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Gray
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 69,648
- Stock #:
- TC01786
- VIN:
- 4T3LWRFV6MU037820
2021 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
LE AWD
69,648 mi
$29,131
- Year:
- 2021
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Black
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 73,039
- Stock #:
- C6243
- VIN:
- 4T3MWRFV1MU023196
2021 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
LE AWD
73,039 mi
$25,820
- Year:
- 2020
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Black
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 51,721
- Stock #:
- 25960
- VIN:
- 2T3MWRFV4LW071385
2020 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
LE AWD
51,721 mi
$26,681
- Year:
- 2020
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Blueprint
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 71,766
- Stock #:
- LD070345T
- VIN:
- JTMRWRFV5LD070345
2020 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
XLE AWD
71,766 mi
$26,994
- Year:
- 2018
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- White
- Combined gas mileage:
- 32 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 89,889
- Stock #:
- 7350
- VIN:
- JTMDJREV5JD217058
2018 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
Limited AWD
89,889 mi
$22,798
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Blue
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 94,427
- Stock #:
- HS7156AX
- VIN:
- JTMRWRFV9ND141002
2022 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
XLE AWD
94,427 mi
$27,073
- Year:
- 2025
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Black
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 4,443
- Stock #:
- TC01785
- VIN:
- JTMLWRFV7SD305221
2025 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
LE AWD
4,443 mi
$36,978
- Year:
- 2020
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Blue
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Gray
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 76,825
- Stock #:
- TC01588
- VIN:
- 2T3DWRFV4LW075856
-$2,335
2020 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
Limited AWD
76,825 mi
$32,031
$29,696
Recommended model year:
2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
Shop 2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid »With 3,527 currently listed for sale and an average price of $35,851.00, 31.2% of 2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrids for sale on CarGurus are rated as good or great deals.
Favorably reviewed: Owners rated the 2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid 5 / 5 stars.
90.3% of 2024 RAV4 Hybrid models on CarGurus are accident free.
The 2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid features an advanced hybrid system producing 219 horsepower, combined with a significant improvement in fuel economy of up to 39 mpg, making it a top contender among hybrid SUVs.
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 55,262
- Stock #:
- TC08522
- VIN:
- JTMB6RFV9PD101572
2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
XLE Premium AWD
55,262 mi
$36,981
- Year:
- 2024
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Magnetic Gray Metallic
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 23,025
- Stock #:
- RW233117P
- VIN:
- 2T3LWRFV6RW233117
2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
LE AWD
23,025 mi
$33,543
- Year:
- 2021
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Midnight Black Metallic
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 79,867
- Stock #:
- 26X893A
- VIN:
- 2T3E6RFV5MW002789
2021 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
XSE AWD
79,867 mi
$29,999
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- White
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Automatic
- Mileage:
- 72,113
- Stock #:
- 28055642
- VIN:
- JTME6RFV2PJ037504
2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
XSE AWD
72,113 mi
$32,997
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Black
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 94,353
- Stock #:
- TC01659
- VIN:
- 4T3LWRFV7PU091714
2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
LE AWD
94,353 mi
$27,841
- Year:
- 2021
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Gray
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 68,438
- Stock #:
- TC01656
- VIN:
- 4T3LWRFV1MU044612
2021 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
LE AWD
68,438 mi
$29,130
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Ice
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 37,668
- Stock #:
- P6229
- VIN:
- JTMMWRFV0PD199299
2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
LE AWD
37,668 mi
$32,995
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Midnight Black Metallic
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 32,710
- Stock #:
- NU084024A
- VIN:
- 4T3B6RFV1NU084024
2022 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
XLE Premium AWD
32,710 mi
$35,244
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Blue
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 70,371
- Stock #:
- 77485A
- VIN:
- 4T3T6RFVXNU075312
2022 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
SE AWD
70,371 mi
$30,666
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- RAV4 Hybrid
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid
- Exterior color:
- Silver Sky Metallic
- Combined gas mileage:
- 40 MPG
- Fuel type:
- Hybrid
- Interior color:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Mileage:
- 37,647
- Stock #:
- U11209A
- VIN:
- JTMRWRFV1PD182629
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2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
XLE AWD
37,647 mi
$34,900
FAQs
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4.8 Overall rating
Customers say
The Toyota RAV4 Hybrid has received positive feedback from owners across various model years. Commonly praised features include its smooth ride, impressive fuel economy, and spacious interior. Many drivers appreciate the advanced technology and safety features that enhance the driving experience. However, some common criticisms include a stiff ride in certain models, occasional noise from the hybrid system, and a desire for more customizable options. Overall, the RAV4 Hybrid stands out as a reliable and practical choice for an SUV.
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Jenia C
Reviewed a 2017 Toyota Limited AWD on Jun 3, 2025
The RAV4 Hybrid offers a comfortable and generally quiet ride, with the exception of some coarse engine noise during high-speed acceleration
Warren S
Reviewed a 2025 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid on Apr 12, 2025
Awesome car. Good gas mileage, comfortable, well made. Highly recommend
Mallory W
Reviewed a 2023 Toyota Limited AWD on Apr 2, 2026
Great value . Love the hybrid motor and leather interior. Has great technology to help with driving
Tony T
Reviewed a 2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid on Nov 6, 2024
He car is exactly what we were looking for, it has all of the features we were hoping for and more, its gently used, and it is a great deal.
Toyota RAV4 Hybrid Trims
| Trim type | MSRP |
|---|---|
| XSE AWD | $38,510 |
| Limited AWD | $41,155 |
| SE AWD | $35,545 |
| XLE Premium AWD | $37,250 |
| Woodland Edition AWD | $36,070 |
| XLE AWD | $34,360 |
| LE AWD | $32,850 |
Toyota RAV4 Hybrid Price Trends
CarGurus tracks the prices of millions of used car listings every year. See how the average price of Toyota RAV4 Hybrid prices has changed over time.
See more price trendsToyota RAV4 Hybrid Pricing Analysis
Pricing Analysis by Model Year
Key Insights
- New Models Demand: The 2025 RAV4 Hybrid shows a strong demand with an average price of $38,359, which is +16.4% above MSRP, indicating high interest in the latest model year.
- Depreciation Patterns: Older models, particularly the 2016 and 2017 RAV4 Hybrids, have depreciated significantly, showing average prices at $19,009 and $19,882, respectively, falling over 30% from their original MSRP.
- Stable Value in Recent Years: The models from 2020 to 2022 display less depreciation, maintaining average prices within $27,768 to $31,107, reflecting steady demand.
Model Year Pricing
| Model Year | Original MSRP | Avg Price | Price vs MSRP |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid | $32,850 | $38,359 | +16.4% |
| 2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid | $31,725 | $36,259 | +14.4% |
| 2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid | $31,225 | $34,976 | +12.0% |
| 2022 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid | $29,575 | $31,107 | +5.2% |
| 2021 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid | $28,900 | $29,461 | +1.9% |
| 2020 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid | $28,350 | $27,768 | -2.0% |
| 2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid | $27,850 | $25,473 | -8.5% |
| 2018 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid | $27,385 | $22,522 | -17.5% |
| 2017 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid | $27,910 | $19,882 | -28.8% |
| 2016 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid | $28,370 | $19,009 | -33.0% |
Pricing by Popular US Cities
Market Area: Nationwide
Key Insights
- Highest Prices in Dallas: The city of Dallas, TX ranks the highest at an average price of $33,827, likely due to strong demand in a large urban market.
- Lowest Prices in New York: In contrast, New York, NY offers the most affordable average price of $29,972, indicating a competitive pricing environment or potentially higher inventory levels.
- Inventory Correlation: Cities like Philadelphia (338 listings) and Houston (294 listings) exhibit stable pricing around $31,000, reflecting healthy supply levels and consistent market demand.
City-Level Pricing
| City | Total Listings | Avg Price |
|---|---|---|
| Dallas, TX | 283 | $33,827 |
| Chicago, IL | 235 | $30,954 |
| Boston, MA | 263 | $31,088 |
| Philadelphia, PA | 338 | $31,282 |
| Houston, TX | 294 | $31,555 |
| Miami, FL | 255 | $31,549 |
| Atlanta, GA | 326 | $31,120 |
| Washington, DC | 281 | $30,092 |
| Los Angeles, CA | 244 | $31,296 |
| New York, NY | 220 | $29,972 |
Pricing by Trim Packages
Key Insights
- Dominance of AWD Trims: The XLE AWD is the most listed trim with 1,989 available, reflecting strong consumer preference for all-wheel drive capabilities.
- Tiered Pricing Gaps: The XSE AWD trim represents the highest MSRP at $38,510, positioning it as a premium option within the lineup, while the LE AWD provides a strong value proposition at $32,850.
- Popular Features Across Trims: Common features such as Adaptive Cruise Control and Blind Spot Monitoring highlight consumer demand for safety and convenience across all trims.
Trim-Level Details
| Trim | Listings | MSRP | Drivetrain | Engine |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| XLE AWD | 1,989 | $34,360 | AWD | 2.5L 219 hp I4 Hybrid |
| LE AWD | 1,493 | $32,850 | AWD | 2.5L 219 hp I4 Hybrid |
| XSE AWD | 948 | $38,510 | AWD | 2.5L 219 hp I4 Hybrid |
| Limited AWD | 806 | $41,155 | AWD | 2.5L 219 hp I4 Hybrid |
| XLE Premium AWD | 649 | $37,250 | AWD | 2.5L 219 hp I4 Hybrid |
| SE AWD | 342 | $35,545 | AWD | 2.5L 219 hp I4 Hybrid |
| Woodland Edition AWD | 91 | $36,070 | AWD | 2.5L 219 hp I4 Hybrid |
These recommendations are based on CarGurus' proprietary market data from June 11, 2026, CarGurus experts' opinions, and generative AI.
CarGurus recommends the 2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
Summary
With 3,527 currently listed for sale and an average price of $35,851.00, 31.2% of 2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrids for sale on CarGurus are rated as good or great deals.
Favorably reviewed: Owners rated the 2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid 5 / 5 stars.
90.3% of 2024 RAV4 Hybrid models on CarGurus are accident free.
The 2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid features an advanced hybrid system producing 219 horsepower, combined with a significant improvement in fuel economy of up to 39 mpg, making it a top contender among hybrid SUVs.
Why it stands out
The 2024 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid uniquely combines Toyota's extensive experience in SUVs with hybrid technology, providing a vehicle that excels in performance, reliability, and fuel efficiency. The second-generation RAV4 Hybrid boasts a refined, powerful hybrid powertrain that not only increases power output but also enhances fuel economy, offering 39 mpg combined. Its spacious interior and state-of-the-art technology, including improved infotainment and safety features, make the RAV4 Hybrid an appealing choice for families and individuals seeking practicality without compromising on style or innovation.
Other model years to consider
- Average price: $28,915.00
- Good/great deal percentage: 32.0%
- User rating: 4.82 / 5
- Total listings: 2,021
- Average price: $27,292.00
- Good/great deal percentage: 32.8%
- User rating: 4.8 / 5
- Total listings: 1,431
These recommendations are based on CarGurus' proprietary market data from June 8, 2026, CarGurus experts' opinions, and generative AI.
Recent expert test drives
2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
- Expert review9/10
- MSRP$27,850-$35,850
- Avg. price$25,222
- User rating4.375
2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
- Expert review6/10
- MSRP$31,225-$39,530
- Avg. price$33,925
- User rating5
2020 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid
- Expert review9/10
- MSRP$28,350-$36,880
- Avg. price$27,252
- User rating4.8
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