170k and 2005 Accord using about 1 quart every 1200 miles .
Do you park in the same spot every day? If so...day or night....place some newspaper under your front end of the vehicle. And then notice in the morning....or after work, where the leaks are dropping down from. At least you will be close enough to look in the engine compartment and narrow the choices. Many older cars have seals that dry up and allow leaks. Also if you just started using synthetic oil.....in an older car....that will find every possible leak area as well. Hope this helps
Yes, synthetic oil will find its way out at the weakest point. Use a conventional oil, same weight recommendation for the vehicle, or try a high mileage oil. Any serious leak should be repaired.
Sorry for not mentioning , but absolutely no oil leaks and that is why I was wondering what I might do about oil lose that apparently going through engine. Engine runs fine .
Hey.....there was a major lawsuit on Honda regarding this issue and you are not alone. Read this article and go to the dealer....ask them to fix it.....write a letter to the regional manager if the dealer does not help u. They know they have a defect(s): http://www.autonews.com/article/20131022/OEM11/131029975/american-honda-settles-class-action-suit-over-oil-burning-claim American Honda settles class-action suit over oil-burning claim Design caused spark plug failures, suit says October 22, 2013 @ 12:00 pm Andrew Thurlow Send us a Letter Have an opinion about this story? Click here to submit a Letter to the Editor, and we may publish it in print. DETROIT -- American Honda Motor Co. has agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit over claims that it manufactured 1,593,755 defective vehicles that excessively burn oil and require frequent spark plug replacements. The settlement concerns all U.S. purchasers and lessees of 2008-12 Accord, 2008-13 Odyssey, 2009-13 Pilot, 2010-11 Accord Crosstour and 2012 Crosstour vehicles equipped with six-cylinder engines that have variable cylinder management. Accord vehicles with four-cylinder engines are excluded from the settlement. The original suit -- filed in March 2012 by plaintiffs Alex Soto and Vince Eagen -- claimed the vehicles contained a "systematic design defect that enables oil to enter into the engine's combustion chamber." The alleged defect led to "premature spark plug degradation and engine malfunction," court documents said. The plaintiffs claimed Honda hid the problem from consumers. Honda denied the allegation, despite receiving hundreds of online complaints on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Web site, and about 130 on carcomplaints.com concerning the 2008 Accord alone. Honda later issued a technical service bulletin notifying its technicians to check for the defect. The automaker did not issue a recall because a safety issue was not discovered. The majority of complaints allege that Honda said it was normal for a powertrain to burn a quart of oil every 1,000 miles. The suit claimed Honda refused to cover warranties for the vehicles and, instead, instructed customers to check their oil every time they get gas. Eagan claims that he had to add a quart of oil to his vehicle each month and had to replace his "prematurely fouled" spark plugs twice within 55,000 miles as a result of oil burning in the cylinders. Soto said in court documents that he routinely noticed carbon buildup on his exhaust pipe -- a sign that oil, and not just gasoline, is burning in the powertrain. Honda assured Soto that this, too, was normal, court documents show. Dave Sullivan, an analyst at research firm AutoPacific, said that today's emission requirements do not permit engines to burn oil. "It's too dirty," Sullivan said. "We're seeing cars go 10,000 miles now between oil changes. If there was a quart for every thousand miles you would need 10 quarts, and most cars don't have that many quarts in them." Sullivan said when he changed the oil in his Mazda6 that he may have lost "a cup or two of oil between changes, but that was over 7,500 miles. I think that's a negligible amount. That being said, there's no excuse for a quart every thousand miles." Sullivan said the last major episode that involved people complaining about oil burn was with the Mazda RX-8. "Instead of waiting for people to complain, [Mazda] was more proactive and … said 'even if you don't have a problem, you're going to have one so let's just fix it now.'" Honda declined to comment until after the case is granted final approval. The settlement was reached after U.S. District Judge Susan Illston declined the defendant's motion to force arbitration on the case in Oct. 2012. The judge found that Honda was a third-party non-signatory to a contract and therefore may not compel arbitration under the terms of the contract. The preliminary settlement approval was given Oct. 9 by Illston in San Francisco. The final fairness hearing, which is the last step in a class action settlement, is set for March 21. Under the conditions of the settlement, Honda agreed to extend the powertrain limited warranty for up to eight years after the original sale or lease of the vehicle. Honda also agreed not to oppose the counsel attorney fees as long as they do not exceed more than $800,000. Eagen is also asking the court to approve an incentive award of no more than $1,000 to compensate him for his time and effort on behalf of the settlement class, according to a copy of the class notice. Details on the settlement notice, which is due to be sent out by the court Wednesday, can be found in the .pdf file attached to this story
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