On my 2011 f 150 the daytime dash llights will not turn off after key is removed and doors locked. How do I fix this as it runs down my battery
Started with a dead battery and then boosted it off and ran fine. Noticed when i parked it
at end of day the day time dash lights were still on several hours after I pulled key and
That feature is programmed into the ecu. Try disconnecting the battery for about a half hour. That might reset the computer.
That did the trick. I am glad I did not have to start fooling around with a lot of electric parts. Thanks for the answer.
Ok, I stand corrected, this did not fix problem. When I crank truck the dash lights and little blue limners stay on even when turning off head lights. When I turn off motor, remove key and lock doors the blue limners turn off after a few seconds but the white numbers on dash stay on. I am afraid this will run down my battery overnight. Any thoughts?
GERRRRR :>( How long dothe white #`s stay on? Do they ever shut off? Are the lights partly shutting off? GERRRRR.
The white numbers stay on all the time now. Just on dash, not center console or gear shift. That is what is running my battery down. Thinking about just taking it to ford house and see what they say today.
Yeah its Ford time. Did anything change when you did the battery trick? If so do it again. If not, yeah its
Going to try one more time just to make sure. Then to Ford house.
Ok, took it to Ford House but they didn't have enough time today to test and also wanted 100.00 just for hooking it up. Said most damage could be computer replacement at 1000.00 or so. I also noticed the remote start did not work either. So no I am also thinking computer. I think I will put a master key under bumper and just turn it off every night. Cheaper that way.
Let me know how that works out. B T W. is that a after market remote start?
No aftermarket. It came with the truck.
So what did Ford say/do other than take your money.
Hey, I'm just wondering if you managed to work out a solution to your problem. I have a 2012 Fx4 Ecoboost with 76,000km/47,000mi that has started to do the same thing. A buddy first mentioned it to me when he noticed it stopping by and said they were on. I had seen it once or twice more then it killed the battery. I've since been pulling the fuse every night and replacing it in the mornings but I don't really feel like doing this all winter long. I'm just hoping for an idea of what it might be before taking it to Ford and having them waste my time and money now that my warranty has just rolled and end up getting gassed for who knows how much $$. Any idea would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
I gave up and took mine to ford house. About $1400.00 and 4 days later they replaced the instrument cluster.
So my truck went into Ford today to have the brakes done and I asked if their tech could also look at and diaog what could be this problem with my dash lights not turning completely off. They came back to me within a couple hours saying that it was a faulty connection in the shifter mechanism (I have the console shift) and that it would be covered under the extended warranty and replaced this afternoon. I will keep you informed as to whether this remedies the problem for me or if we continue to have gremlins but maybe this is a cheaper repair than having to replace the instrument cluster completely if someone else is having to buck up for parts and labour if anyone else is still having these kind of problems. Thanks again for your help
I'm also curious because my husband has had the same problem on his 2012 F150....for over 5 MONTHS!! At 1st he just let it go because it wasn't happening all the time but eventually he was waking up to a dead battery. Into the shop (a local mechanic) it went for 2 & a half weeks....they claimed they looked at everything & then eventually they said it was fixed. He picked it up, paid them, brought it home, then as soon as it got dark outside we realized the dash lights were still on. He decided to just disconnect the battery each night but that got to be a pain to reconnect each morning as the weather got colder. Back to the shop, 8 days later they said it was fixed....it wasn't. He took it back & they just put a new battery in & said "the dash lights didn't stay on for them". That was yesterday & yes, the dash lights are still on. Not sure what to do, where to take it, how much it's going to cost. We are about to just sell the damn thing.
I had the same problem with my 2012 f-150 found out it was the lower shift modulator, "ford has a fix it fact sheet on the problem they sent out in 2011 to all dealerships
I took mine to shop and they charged me about 1500 to replace insturment cluster and they also said they needed to replace a shifter switch that kept remote start from working. Makes me wonder if I really needed the instrument cluster. The bill said the shifter switch was only about 150.00
I had the same problem with a ford econoline van and I slammed the brake while it was off, in park, and that fixed the light problem. Today I had the same problem with a ford F-150, so I slammed the break down, then pulled it back up. Problem fixed.
Thanks nate the great!! My 2011 FX4 has been doing this for a long time now and I could never figure out why and I just read the answer from Nate the great above and it actually worked. I went in my truck and slammed my foot down on the break and got out my truck and locked it and the guage lights were off! Thanks bro, your check is in the mail!! ;)
I just started with this light problem. I have a 2013 F-150 I will try the brake deal and let you know .
Ford tech here, the most probable cause is the shifter park ckt is showing open. its a switch on the column or the shifter assy in the console. The remote start requires that the truck see's a park signal to start. The park switch is directly connected to the cluster and gives a ground to turn off the lights.
I just recently started to have the same problems in my 2011 F150. Ford tech, you refer to a switch. Is that something I can locate and turn off? The shifter is in the console.
You will have to take the console apart a bit to get to the wiring connector for the shifter. Unplug it and if the light goes off replace the shifter assembly. The switch is built into the base and is not serviceable unfortunately.
c3245 @shifter rh side of console under shifter trim pin 3 green wire harness side green wire goes to pin 7 at the cluster connector also green wire. unplug @ shifter and give it a jumpper to ground. if lights go off then replace shifter. I dont have my original repair order right now to guide me on how i did it.
Thanks! I can't do that myself but I can at least be knowledgeable about the problem when I take it into the shop.
so i have exact same problem on my 2011 raptor started doing this 3 days now cluster light on all the time and remote start will to work would i half to change the safety neutral switch then??
2011 FX2 SCREW I have the same problem. Is there a TSB or something we can reference to help troubleshoot.?
Ford said it was the dash. Turned out they also put in a new shifter. I am guessing they just figured out it was a shifter problem after they charged me for dash. Only about 1500 difference. Another thing that was going on with mine was the remote starter would not work either. This fixed both.
Pete, I went around in circles with the ford tech hotline and got them to admit that there isn't a tsb or procedure in the service manual. Just use logic and the wiring diagram for the circuit CET52 transmission park detect. If its a floor shifter it is not serviced separately.
I just discovered the same problem with my 2012 F-150. The white gauge lights won't go out, and the remote start doesn't work. I tried the brake thing with no luck. I guess I get to go to the Dealer tomorrow.
I have the same problem with my 2012 f150. It started after the battery died and got boosted. It seems that my lock cylinder is loose and is easily tripped on and off. (My power seat goes back and forth to its setting point with just a 1/32 of a turn). I think my problem might be there. I will replace it and let you guys know if it worked for me once I try it.
Alex you door lock cylinder is held in by a clip mounted in the door handle assembly. if it was broken into through the dr door then you will most likely need to replace the handle to secure the lock cylinder correctly.
My 2011 f150 dash lights just started staying on. I pushed slam the brake and it goes off. What do I need to replace?
Dhill357, Which lights are staying on? All of them or just the ones behind the speedo and tach. Your truck may be resetting the park switch when the shifter interlock is activating.
Just the white lights behind the gauges. My truck has been at the dealer for a week now, because they ordered all new gauges even though I told them the it probably won't fix the problem. They also found a fault code pertaining to the remote start ( since it went out at the same time). They replaced a switch hooked to the shift lever in the console to (hopefully) fix that.
Hey Guy. How would someone go about resetting the park switch?
I'm not sure if the 2 are related but I had the driver side speaker replaced in my 2011 F150 Ecoboost 2 weeks ago. Dead battery a few days later. Dealer said my battery failed, sold me a new one. Dead battery a few days later again. Dealer tested for parasitic draw, none found. Dealer kept it overnight, dead again the next day. They recharged the battery, kept it overnight and it started the next morning. I brought it home, dead the next day. Seems to be an intermittent draw. Finally, this evening, I noticed that the instrument panel cluster (IPC) lights stayed on (the blueish ones and the dome lights turned off, the whitish ones on the IPC stayed on). My remote starter works fine. In fact, I remote started the truck, no problem, inserted the key, put in in drive, put it back in park, then turned it off, waited for all the lights to shut off and they did, including the white IPC lights. I'm lost, but this entire post has me thinking a lot.
Hey Guy I'm having same problem 2013 F150 white lights staying on and killing battery. i took apart shifter assembly and unplugged wire harness and white light still on. But then you talk about jumping wires on pin 3 and pin 7 but i don't have green wires at switch they are red,black,and blu. can you elaborate in more detail? i thought if you just unplugged harness it would turn light off if that was problem.
I just got my truck back after 5 weeks! I showed the service guy at the dealer these threads about this problem, but would not use any info until I went in and demanded my truck back. After replacing the gauge cluster, they finally replaced the entire gear shift mechanism- part number BL3Z*7210*CB Gear Shift. That fixed it. It also took care of the faulty Remote Start.
I forgot to mention, that of course replacing the gauge cluster did not fix the problem. They had to call Ford Tech's in Michigan to figure it out. Thank god it is under warranty.
The repair for this cluster light staying on and no remote start with the floor shifter is to replace the shifter part # BL3Z*7210*CB. Canam1, I am a Ford dealer tech and hate that you have had to go through so much grief, I've shared as much as I can with anyone that asked for help here regarding this shifter issue without breaching corporate rules that prohibit some information. I've seen on the ford tech message boards (where all of the ford employees can find this info) that we as technicians are sharing the same concerns as our customers and also sharing what the proper repair is. We have let the engineers know through the technical assistance hotline that there is not a dedicated diagnosis for this problem. They are aware of all the unhappy customers and guiding those that ask for help to the correct repair finally. Unfortunately I can't share the communication I've had with Ford regarding this and trying to explain the diagnosis by typing it in my own words without the aid of everyone else having the wiring diagrams I have access to in front of them is a very difficult. Thank you for sharing the part number so that others may know what to get in the future. Canam1 please don't stop here, you can help many more people out if you will follow up with the Ford customer service rep that is working with your dealer. Fill out the survey that Ford will send you about this repair. PLEASE have pity on the poor mechanic and service writer that are almost as upset that your truck wasn't fixed with the first round of parts they put in it. (replacing the cluster is a computer programing nightmare) At least it finally got fixed and that service department will never get this one wrong again.
I was charged and told it was insurment cluster. Then they told me it was also shifter. Got charged for both. I did not see any sign of the cluster being changed. But what can I do
ddoson pm sent
i'm going back to a Chevorlet trucks
Thanks Guy! Yeah, I am a pretty easy going guy, but I am a contractor, and my truck is my lifeblood. I was frustrated because no one at the dealer cared to look at all the info I found on the problem on this forum until made them look at it with me. They were also supposed to look into an occasional rough idle on my ecoboost and why I am averaging only 10.6 mpg, but I wanted my truck back so bad, I took it when this problem got resolved.
canam, The early eco-boost's have issues with rough idle and misfire under light to moderate acceleration caused by spark plugs mostly.
Guy I'm having a similiar problem on a 2013 xlt with column shift. Dash lights coming on randomly drawing down battery. Haven't had battery go completely dead yet but have had a battery saver code come on in radio also in lcd screen in dash. Would you have the part number for the column shift and is it serviceable unlike floor shifter?
Chad, the park sensor/brake interlock is a possible cause on your truck. It is located on the inside of the column about about halfway down and under the plastic cover and is a serviceable part, base part number (3Z719). I've not personally seen it go bad myself but have heard that it is serviced separately in the column style shifter. The picture in the workshop manual shows it kind of under the shift lever. Now to the diagnosis, do the blue dashes surrounding the gauges come on as well as the white background lighting? Do any other lights at all come on when this happens? Any other lights than the white background lighting would indicate that there is another issue. Let me know and we can move forward from there. Guy
Guy Just the dash lights in speedo tach area blue outer for sure I'm not sure on the white but I'm assuming yes on those to. No other lights just those. Key has been removed. The battery has tested good and charging system is working properly. If the truck sits for a couple days with this happening it draws the battery down enough to get the message that appears in radio and dash. The truck still has started for me and it takes a little driving to get the messages to clear. I'm assuming that if I'd let it sit any longer the battery would go completely dead.
Guy you are the man just replaced shifter assembly BL3Z-7210-CB about $230.00 and phantom white light has gone out after 3-weeks trying to figure out none of Ford guys seem to know this. i have a 2013 F-150 Plantinum. Youtube will show you how to take console apart and when you get shifter assembly all you have is 4 bolts and shifter cable assembly to pull apart. feel free to call me with any questions 314-605-6431 Paul people thank Guy for this one or you would be spending $1500.00 and a bunch of weeks with no truck
I have a 2012 f150 that will drain the battery over night and have noticed that after driving any distance at all that the shift indicator will show everything but park when this happens while parked I can turn off the key then restart the truck hen it will show the p for park lit up. If I go through this procedure every time I'm going to exit the truck for the day then it will not drain the battery, If I forget the result is a dead battery every time. Does any of you think that the shifter assembly will solve the issue I am having with my truck?
I believe it is your shifter assy as there is a switch built into handle and tells truck when its in park and that whats going bad. i believe mine went bad and could not mess with handle to get it going. i don't know if the 2012 has remote start but the 2013 do and that would not work either because it was thinking it was not in park. feel free to call me with any questions. 314-605-6431 Thanks, Paul
@ Trout, yessir sounds like it.
Same Problem with the white tech lights not turning off. 2011 F150 with 82K miles. My battery has drained twice before noticing the lights staying on long after I turned the car off and locked it. I do not have a remote start (just lock) and my shifter is on the column. What is necessary for me to get this taken care of properly. I'm the second owner and do not believe I'm under any warranty.
Ed there is a park sense switch in the shifter column that is serviceable separately. If when the truck is in park, headlights off you can pull back on the shifter lever lightly the white lights behind the speedo and tach come on then it is likely the root of the problem. It's basic part number is 3Z719 and is about $180. I will check tomorrow and get the actual cost and full part number.
Thanks Guy, so I went out and did what you requested and heard a clicking when I pulled lightly on the shifter. It did not, however, change any of the lights, pro or con in any different situation. I tried a few... If it is a sensor in the steering column, what do you think made it go out? I find it interesting that all these folks had the same thing happen at relatively the same time? I appreciate you looking into it, I tried the brake slam fix too, with no avail.
Ed the part # is FL3Z-3Z719-A and is $102.13 plus tax where I work. You are dealing with circuit cet52 green wire that goes from the shifter switch in the column to the cluster. with the connector unplugged you will use a fused jumper wire to ground cet52 harness side to mimic the park signal. If the lights go out it is the problem.
As far as I know this is not common enough to do a full recall or any other action that would admit a problem with the product yet. Yes it would be nice if FOMOCO would revise the online workshop manual or put something in the oasis (Fords online vehicle support for dealers) about this, but of all the thousands of trucks out there the percentage of faulty vehicles is rather small. This is a pic of the column.
Thank you Guy! Much appreciation. I'll let you know how it goes.
Just adding to the numbers, my 2011 F150 Lariat just started keeping the cluster lights on. I am going to go with the gear shifter BL3Z-7210-CB. It just sucks that Ford has not said anything about it!
I am having same problem. I replaced the floor shifter with a used one from a 28000 mile truck, but the lights are still on. The park indicator doesn't light up but I have a green turn indicator light on also. I checked turn and park lamp sockets and didn't see anything wrong.
I am having the same issue. 2013 f150 Xlt. When I go check the truck I find just the white dash lights on. They go off when I lock it but I'm not sure how long before they pop back on. As mentioned earlier when I drive the truck and go to park I can't get the orange P light to come on no matter how many times I shift back and fourth. I have to turn it off and then back on and then the park light is orange as it should be. I haven't tested it yet to see if that holds up over night. Hopefully it does and will atleast help me get by short term. I also have the shifter that is built into the steering colum not the floor shifter in the center console. I just bought this truck 3 days ago. No warranty and I'm 5 hours from the dealer. Hopefully they will make it right it not I'll have to try what has been suggested. Reguardless if they fix it or I do I just wanted to thank the guys in this thread who contributed to diagnosing this problem. It looks like it's going to save me a ton of headache.
So if I order FL3Z-3Z719-A which seems to be the part to solve my problem. Do you think a guy like myself with average everyday mechanical skills could take this on themselves? I really don't know much about the wiring. All I could do is pay attention to what I am taking apart and put it together with the new part the same way. Or should i just take it in to get fixed? After spending 26k out the door on a truck, I just really don't feel like putting in a bunch more money. This issue literally happened the morning after I bought the truck.
I pulled the panel off a bit and I am assuming this is the part I am replacing (circled it in picture). Doesn't quite look like the pictures the part # shows so I wanted to double check. If that is it, doesn't look like it would be to big of a deal to install. Although it does look like I will need to remove a lot of panels in order to have room to work on it. Thanks!
I ended up digging more into it and resolving my issue without replacing anything. In the steering column shifter the actuator is actually located under what I circled in the above picture. You must remove the bottom section of the plastic that wraps the column (3 socket screws on the bottom). Pretty easy. Once I did this I unplugged the wires going into the actuator and plugged them back in making sure I had a solid connection. This completely solved my issue so far. 2 days of plenty of driving and I haven't had a single issue. Before this the problem occurred 100% of the time (it wasn't hit or miss). I took my truck down some bumpy roads and drove it hard, put it into 4 wheel drive, anything I could do to see if I could possibly get it to flare back up. I'm not saying it won't eventually but it's nice to know that if it does I know for sure what it is and it does not look very difficult to replace on your own (Guy listed the proper part number above). I would be curious to know if unplugging it could have possibly reset that unit or if it was simply a connection issue. Anyway, I just wanted to share everything I have for anyone whoever has this issue and finds this thread. I know it saved me a ton of time!
Long time lurker, first time poster. I ended up having the dreaded dead battery with dash lights constantly staying on. I have a console shifter 2013 Lariat. I ended up buying a new console shifter for $400 and I just installed it this past weekend. I tore my old one apart and found the culprit switch. I work in electronics and actually found the replacement switch. The switch is easy to replace as seen in the photos below. You don't even have to remove the shifter. I have a bunch of the switches which I can sell for $30.00 shipped to your door. Or if you want, for $125 you send me your non-working console shifter and I will send you a fixed working shifter in exchange. I will keep your old shifter, fix it, and then do the same process with someone else again. If anyone is interested, shoot me an email at Erik@Luther.edu
for future reference doe this need to be riveted back on shifter?
Nope just snaps right in.
Just fyi, I've sold this switch to 9 people since posting and everyone has had success fixing the issue!
so not sure what I did I unplugged battery ... then plugged back .. then popped up center console cover and started playing around with wires to see if any were loose said ...f it .. reassembled and all of a sudden the lights went out and all was better so I guess that for one thing says its the switch .. so ill be ordering one soon ...
I have the switch available so shoot me an email. Just sold another one today! Erik@luther.edu
Thanks Appreciate it but I prefer to get direct from ford Nothing personal I don't know u I get a steep discount from ford locally
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/omron-electronics-inc- emc-div/D2HW-C201M/SW721-ND/404504 link to the part you need
thanks appreciated when the time comes ill get it direct from ford... ill pay 5.00 more to have OEM part, but I appreciate the help/link thanks
The Omron switch is OEM
It is not OEM...I spoke with the manufacture of the switch and it is made specifically for Ford. They do not have the sku number for the factory listed.
Morter01, thank you for the switch! Guys, we read this entire forum post and ended up ordering the switch. My husband was able to replace it and everything works great now--no more white dash lights staying on in his 2012 F150! We called Ford and the service dept had no interest in hearing what we'd read here, so in order to avoid the chance of receiving an astronomically large bill from them, we called a mechanic. He was willing to replace our entire shifter for $480 ($380 for the shifter and $100 for the labor) but this DIY switch was the cheapest and therefore best option for us, at a mere $36. And it worked!! Loving the Internet this week. ;-)
The switch the Rob posted is not correct. The "guts" of the switch are wired incorrectly. I bought one and the part numbers are not the same with the Ford switch. Morter01 has the correct switch. I bought one and it worked great! I'm glad to see that people are helping each other save money and stick it to Ford!
I'm having the same problem. In need of the switch to repair my floor shifter.
Send me your contact info to Erik@Luther.edu
Just to update everyone, I've sold and fixed approximately 35 trucks now. Just got in another shipment so ready to distribute! Email at Erik@Luther.edu
I have a 2013 150 Platinum and I am having the same issues with the white cluster light staying on now randomly draining the battery. So what you're saying is that part you are getting is eliminating having to pay 400 for a new shifter assembly?
Exactly! This switch is what you need! Email me at Erik@luther.edu and I can get a switch sent to you. The replacement process is very simple. So far, I've had a 100% success rate.
And for more convenience I opened an Ebay listing for the switch so that you are able to pay with PayPal, credit card, or other funds. Shipping is also easier for me from this end as well. I have also included a video. Check it out. http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/162075698977?
Ok,really hope this is it.I hate getting taken advantage of by the dealer.I never go to ford dealer If I can help it.thanks,placing my order with ya.
Sounds good to me! If you are the one who just bought on ebay, your switch is on the way!
Received my switch tdy,thanks morter01.I will keep you all posted.
Morter 01, He is the answer to this problem!! I was having the white instrument cluster lights staying on and draining my battery as posted with my 2013 Ford Platinum. I ordered the part and received it in 3 days from him. The work was easy, the video helped immensely. When I took it apart and seen how worn the switch was,you can see it is a poor design from Ford, and his switch is the exact switch. It is no smoke and mirrors with this guy. If you want to avoid the nightmare of dropping off your vehicle trying to find another ride or a rental,paying heavy money like some of the posts have stated,so you can get to work or do whatever you need to do, you need to get with him on this part. I spoke to 10 dealerships or more, and random people on the street asking them questions if they had this problem and no one had the answer except morter 01.ALL HAIL MORTER 01.Thank you very much. There are still good people in this world,and it's MORTER 01.
Another successful repair thanks to Erik (Morter 01). Saved me a few hundred dollars by not having to replace the entire gear shifter. Took me about 30 minutes from start to finish and the truck is good as new! Very simple fix that anyone can DIY.
Add me to the list of Morter 01 supporters! I was very skeptical as well, but figured I'd try spending $40 as opposed to the $500 several dealerships quoted to fix the problem. I'm not mechanically inclined, but by watching the video (which was a huge help) 2 hours later I was done. Thanks Morter!
Same dash light problem with my 2011. Ordered the switch from morter01. Fast, easy ebay transaction, fast shipping. Installed the switch and bingo! Thank for saving me several hundred dollars
Just checking in,nice to see people are having great results,like myself
As you can see in the picture, my switch was pretty hammered. Button mushroomed and the plastic pin that keeps the switch from rotating was sheered off so the switch had rotated enough that the park pin wasn't even touching the switch.
Good to hear! Thanks for the post!
Just to make sure everyone sees this, I have an Ebay listing with the switches. -Erik http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/162075698977?
I to have this same issue with my battery draining bcuz of the white lights on instrument panel staying on or just turning back on after the doors are locked. I have a F150 2013. I took it to ford Sat, bcuz my husband said its still under warranty. I explained to the service man, & I asked if he had other ppl bring their truck in for this issue. He said no. I'm in Las Vegas. So I showed the service man this forum and what was the culprit. I'm emailing him this info which @morter01 found and the fix. I only hope I get my truck back the next day.
Hope they don't try and charge you for the whole shifter assembly.remember $40 fixes the prob.
Morter01 thanks man I ordered your switch last week and it fixed my dead battery issue. Saved me some money
Does anyone know the part number this would be at ford for the switch or what it would be called?
Ford does not make the switch. The only way to get a new switch from Ford is to purchase a new center console for $500. I have the replacement switches for sale on Ebay. $42 shipped to your door. http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/162075698977?
I have a 2004 Ford F150 that is having the same issues , do you know of a switch that will work for mine? It has a column shifter. Please email to email@example.com
Just as an update, the ebay listing ended accidentally. It has been relisted under a new number. http://www.ebay.com/itm/162237862860
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