running on H2O

Asked by Mar 11, 2009 at 06:12 PM about the 1994 Lexus SC 300

Question type: Car Customization

How do you fake the O2 sensor out to supplement / run the SC300 on HHO

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1) Those kits don't work, sorry to be the bearer of bad news. That whole conservation of energy thing... 2) The O2 sensors compensate the fuel delivery for the increased amount of oxygen. IE they'll adjust trim so that it's not running lean. You don't want to 'fake' them out. Out of curiosity where did you get the idea to run water as a fuel or that you needed to somehow alter your O2 sensors?

After looking around and trying to see if the idea would work, I produced HHO on a small scale with an old stainless steal flashlight case, fabricated it as described in some of the videos and I found that it could be done. The o2 sensor problems were found by others further along in the process, and it only made sense if there was more o2 at the sensor then the eec module would try and offset the fuel deficiency by dumping more. Not all of the ideas are bogus, Stanley Myer ran one on water for many years. It does have it potential good and bad I am just a squirrel trying to get a nut.

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Christ mate... Do I need to go through all the math and physics again? Screw it I'll give you the cliff notes Fundamental Physics. 1) You can NOT create energy. energy cannot be create or destroyed... 2) In order to run a car on water you need to break it down to hydrogen and oxygen which takes energy (It should be noted it's also highly inefficient and you lose energy to your surroundings....) 3) Now ask yourself where do I get that energy from? The electric system in your car? That's charged by a belt on your engine? So you're getting the energy necessary to convert your water to fuel from the engine burning the fuel? Do you see the problem with this? Regardless under perfect situations it takes nearly 2.5 gallons of water to create enough hydrogen to act as a gallon of fuel. See how long it takes you to turn 2.5 gallons of water into a gas on a 13.6V DC source. Do you get my point yet, or do you need the long version Or how about this. Automotive manufacturing is competitive. If this was feasible they would have done it, there is no evil conspiracy out there keeping the best technology from the people.

Well I do not want to get in a pissing contest with you, all I can say is do some research, Look up Tom Valone PHD he describes in great detail how we will extract energy from the vacuum/zero point, I will send the links if you can keep an open mind and realize that you, me and all the rest of us have been taught what they have been taught and it is not all correct. Also do some research on Nicoli Tesla who brought us AC alternating current and many other wonderful thought provoking creations. THe real physics will start hitting the main stream as soon as we can open our minds and think outside the walls that we have been taught to think from. Once the knowledge gets out there our world will be a much better place. And big oil does squash things do some research you will be knocked off your feet. I know now that things are not as they appear and I hope that you can take a moment and come to grips with the facts and some day pass on the message>> The Truth it will set us free.

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Christ... you'll question convention but not unproven, in some cases untestable, theories? Basic physics isn't perfect anyone who had any decently advanced course knows this. Simplifications of a simplification in order to understand our environment is how most of physics can be described. That being said you find it's more than 99% accurate in most cases. Conservation of energy being one such case. No one has claimed to make a perpetual motion device and not been debunked for a reason... (Read up on the first guy you mentioned.... or should I say the con-artist you mentioned)... Look at his 'circuit' note the location of the wave generator (I'm guessing he used a 555 circuit like several of these water car cons) now note the supposed wave shape and the parallel inductors... note the pointless diode... Note that the final device is nothing more than an AC source with a diode connected to water. Arguably the least efficient means of electrolysis. Mate there is room for advancement but nothing you brought up will help a water car. It's a con short and simple. Don't believe me? Fine build one, I tried to save your money and time with logic and reason and you spewed a bunch of garbage and names of people you know nothing about, so go a head, build it... Tell me how that works out for ya. But for those reading they should know you are being an idiot and this won't work. These dumb cons get spread by people like you with no understanding of what they are saying or doing. You want to argue with me fine try to prove it. I'm getting sick of the ignorant nonsense so show me a working water powered engine... (I recommend you start on small scale so you don't waste too much time or money) Or like in the last topic like this someone said(paraphrase). Take a cross country trip in someone's without stopping for gas, bring your walking shoes. So there I want argue with you because Tesla did some stuff in an unrelated field and some guy at SLU as an equal unrelated and untested theory... I guess you win then? Good luck

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