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2007 BMW 1 Series Review
by Ben

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great looks,handling,performance and the 2 litre turbo diesel does 50+mpg. space is a bit cramped in the back but you get used to it as it is still comfortable and makes up for it in almost every other department better than audi a3 other than that the rest are not in the same league.

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2012 BMW 1 Series 135i Convertible Used Cars in Portland, OR 97267

Great Deal
$3,645 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $33,640

Price: $29,995

Mileage: 17,594

Location: Portland, OR 97267

Average time on market: 35 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: Automatic Color: Alpine White Description: Used 2012 BMW 1 Series 135i Convertible for sale - $29,995, 17,594 miles with Navigation System, Premium Package, Sport Package
Avg. Dealer Rating: (10 reviews) "Jordan Motorz -- predatory dealership based on lies: Recently our Ford Freestar was totaled in a collision and we needed a replacement on a short timescale. Based on previous experience with a Toyota Previa we looked for a used up-scale version of the sequel Toyota Sienna for around $10k. A number of good possibilities appeared on various web pages, but a particularly interesting item appeared on CarGurus: a 2006 Sienna XLE for just under $10k ($9995) with 136k miles and nice amenities. Most importantly, CarGurus indicated the item was underpriced by about $1.7k and therefore a "good deal." Also, the copy presented from the seller indicated extensive work to bring the vehicle up to reasonable specs, such as replacing the timing belt, water pump, belts, pulleys, all fluids and coolant flush. I expressed our interest on the CarGurus page on a Friday AM and received an email response that afternoon from Mark at Jordan Motorz that the car was still "in inventory" and to contact him which I did. One question we had up front was a way to get the car inspected by an independent mechanic. Mark assured us that they provided a 48-hour waiting period after signing to get the car inspected. If a problem came up they would either refund or fix the problem at their expense (the number $500 was given as an example). We decided this deal was worth pursuing. The next day we proceeded to Jordan Motorz and asked for Mark. We were told he was "with another customer" and waited for about half an hour. We were then told the van was being brought into the showroom (high tech with lots of spotlights to make things look pretty). We spent a lot of time privately going over the van details, including functionality of powered features, interior dimensions and general condition. After we were clearly done with this process we were approached by a different person who explained that this was a family business and we did not need to interact with Mark. It turns out the "family" consists of three brothers, the principal being Ashraf shortened to "Ash." We were then speaking to a different brother. We arranged for a test drive and took it onto the freeway and neighborhoods. The basic functions seemed OK. Upon return we discussed the situation further privately and finally concluded that modulo the mechanic inspection this was a good deal and we should proceed. We signaled that we were ready to sign after the more than two hours of waiting and deliberation. We had brought a check for $9995 based on the advertised price. Then interesting things began to happen. The brother in attendance explained to us (2-1/2 hours into the proceedings) that there was a problem with signing. We were told the tires and wheels on the van had just been replaced and the managing brother Ashraf was demanding $1000 over the web-listed price (that we were responding to) before they would sell. We looked at one another and simultaneously said "bait and switch." We demanded to speak to Ash who arrived and started to give us an elaborate song and dance. When pressed for details he explained that the change had been made the previous afternoon (we were shown that the CarGurus page had changed at 4 PM, after I had contacted Mark and after he had acknowledged my interest in the "item in inventory"). Then came the question from me why such a change was necessary, and there was basically some extended mumbling in a very belligerent tone as though we were being rude to question Ash. We discussed this privately and decided to go ahead anyway given our considerable investment in time by then, the positive features of the van and the immediate need for a vehicle. The signing was completed and we drove the van home. Looking the van over in a context with normal lighting we observed that there were scuff marks on the wheels consistent with about 136k miles of reasonably careful driving. The tires were indeed new-ish. I checked the CarGurus page and noted that the van offer had already been removed. But I had saved the original page Thursday evening and it appeared to have been posted 13 days previously. I retrieved the several high-def views of the car that featured the tires and wheels. The images corresponded exactly to what is currently on the van. We concluded that the story about the new tires and wheels was a lie. Having decided to buy the advertised item after much deliberation we were scammed into paying another $1k over the listed price. On Monday we took the van to a competent auto service shop where a skilled mechanic spent 2-1/2 hours going over details. Major items from his report: (1) The engine computer had been reset and was not in a "ready state" (not sufficient time yet to assess the state of various engine components, why?), (2) the steering rack is leaking, (3) the rear shocks are worn out, (4) one of the axle seals is leaking (5) transmission and power-steering fluids need replacing, (6) there is no oil service sticker, (7) the need to replace the timing belt is not evident since it was already replaced in the recent past according to stickers on the engine. There were several other less-serious issues. The shop estimated the total cost for repairs would be $1.5-2k. I immediately called Ash and read off the main items, confronting him also with the tires/wheels scam. I pointed out that his advertising text including "replaced...all fluids" was contradicted by our mechanic. He attempted to convince me that "coolant flush" and "replace all fluids" meant the same thing. There followed five minutes of belligerent invective from Ash translating to "how dare you," that he was losing money, that it was all in his spread sheet, that the wheels now on the van were "much better" than what he replaced and so on. He then asked me what we wanted and I said return of the scammed $1k and work done on the two most-important items on the list: the steering rack and axle seal leaks. There came more belligerent invective with several contradictory offers including buying the van back, taking it to an outside mechanic for further testing, to a Toyota dealership, etc. I pointed out that at two points in negotiations (Mark, other brother) we were assured of a response to any items found by a mechanic within 48 hours. I was informed that among the many things we had signed on Saturday was a waiver excluding any such responsibility. I then explained to Ash that in light of his response I would be placing negative reviews on various web pages. He replied that that would be slander against him personally. I then terminated the call, not bothering to point out that slander involves false statements, not valid criticisms. Immediately after the first contact with Mark I Googled "Jordan Motorz" to look at reviews. What I found on a few links seemed to be positive: e.g. Facebook, cars.com each with many five-star ratings which seemed reassuring. But I didn't dig deep enough; there seems to be a lot of bitterness out there. Better Business Bureau gives Jordan Motorz an F rating (the lowest) based on 11 complaints filed against the company that were ignored or not resolved. Some examples: "Paid $5950 cash for a Land Rover. Within three weeks we found out it needed 3000-5000 in repairs while having another $300 service done. No return calls. ... We have proof they lied." "I got a vehicle from them, it immediately needed engine replacement, I was told by a manager that they knew of an existing problem.... My mechanic has reason to believe oil stabilizer was put in it to quiet the noise, something was done, because there was no way the damage that was on the vehicle was caused by me driving it. ...this just shows me that these people are very shady and have poor business ethics." Scambook: "Information about Jordan Motorz, 18501 SE McLoughlin, Portland, OR was first submitted to Scambook on Oct 09, 2011. Since then the page has accumulated 2 consumer complaints. On average users reported $2000.00 of damages." yelp.com/biz/jordan-motorz-milwaukie: Majority of reviews very negative and describe various forms of scamming. Almost 100 such reviews. Oregonlive.com: Many one-star reviews describing similar experiences with scamming and hidden problems, but also a number of five-star reviews describing the opposite. The reviews generally fall into two groups: One group of consumers is impressed with this dealership and another group is outraged, reporting lies, scams, contemptuous treatment and losses of thousands of dollars in typical cases. I conclude that Jordan Motorz is a two-tier operation. The upper-tier inventory appearing in the showroom consists of high-end sports cars and luxury items costing $50-250k (Ferrari, Rolls Royce, Lexus, Mercedes, Audi and BMW sports cars etc). Buyers of those items seem to be well treated (but such buyers may not be particularly worried about a few thousand dollars here or there). The lower-tier inventory is some fraction of vehicles accepted as trade-ins for upper-tier purchases which then sell for $10-50k and are kept on a lot outside the showroom. At least some sales of those items appear to be rigged to obtain 10-20% beyond the actual vehicle value by scamming, and that appears to happen frequently based on the large number of negative reviews actually appearing on the web."
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2012 BMW 1 Series 128i Convertible Used Cars in Salem, OR 97301

Great Deal
$3,095 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $30,595

Price: $27,500

Mileage: 17,758

Location: Salem, OR 97301

Average time on market: 34 days Certified Pre-Owned: Yes Transmission: Automatic Color: Black Description: Used 2012 BMW 1 Series 128i Convertible for sale - $27,500, 17,758 miles with Premium Package, Leather Seats, Aluminum Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (14 reviews) "Too pushy and know-it-all attitude."
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2012 BMW 1 Series 135i Convertible Used Cars in Beaverton, OR 97005

Good Deal
$2,386 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $31,363

Price: $28,977

Mileage: 29,215

Location: Beaverton, OR 97005

Average time on market: 35 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Color: Blue Water Metallic Description: Used 2012 BMW 1 Series 135i Convertible for sale - $28,977, 29,215 miles with Alloy Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (16 reviews) "The Honda 1 sales person, 1 price works great....if the price is a great one. In my opinion this works very well for the Dealer rather than the customer. Taking the negotiation factor away from the customer when prices are anything except rock bottom makes me want to run for the hills. There are too many dealers around who will meet a customer half way, this isn't one of them in my experience. Hiding behind a good brand with a no negotiation stance is risky, will it pay off...time will tell."
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2008 BMW 1 Series 128i Convertible Used Cars in Portland, OR 97201

Good Deal
$1,182 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $16,973

Price: $15,791

Mileage: 73,479

Location: Portland, OR 97201

Average time on market: 32 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: Automatic Color: White Description: Used 2008 BMW 1 Series 128i Convertible for sale - $15,791, 73,479 miles with Sport Package, Leather Seats, Premium Package, Alloy Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (20 reviews) "Dealer answered all questions very quickly."
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2011 BMW 1 Series 135i Used Cars in Milwaukie, OR 97267

Good Deal
$1,264 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $21,252

Price: $19,988

Mileage: 76,894

Location: Milwaukie, OR 97267

Average time on market: 40 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: Automatic Color: White Description: Used 2011 BMW 1 Series 135i for sale - $19,988, 76,894 miles with Sport Package, Premium Wheels, Sunroof/Moonroof
Avg. Dealer Rating: (6 reviews) "Beat up cars and cheesy salesmen. Avoid this joint!"
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2012 BMW 1 Series 128i SULEV Convertible Used Cars in Wilsonville, OR 97070

Fair Deal
$1,325 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $26,829

Price: $25,504

Mileage: 22,765

Location: Wilsonville, OR 97070

Average time on market: 40 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: Automatic Color: Marrakesh Brown Metallic Description: Used 2012 BMW 1 Series 128i SULEV Convertible for sale - $25,504, 22,765 miles
Avg. Dealer Rating: (14 reviews) "Straight forward service, no hidden stuff. Nice change from most dealers!"
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2012 BMW 1 Series 128i SULEV Used Cars in Salem, OR 97301

Fair Deal
$511 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $25,911

Price: $25,400

Mileage: 16,437

Location: Salem, OR 97301

Average time on market: 35 days Certified Pre-Owned: Yes Transmission: Automatic Color: White Description: Used 2012 BMW 1 Series 128i SULEV for sale - $25,400, 16,437 miles with Bluetooth, Aluminum Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (14 reviews) "Very punctual. "
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2011 BMW 1 Series 135i Used Cars in Beaverton, OR 97005

Fair Deal
$498 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $25,393

Price: $24,895

Mileage: 41,436

Location: Beaverton, OR 97005

Average time on market: 40 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 7-Speed Automatic Color: Space Gray Metallic Description: Used 2011 BMW 1 Series 135i for sale - $24,895, 41,436 miles with Sport Package, Bluetooth, Sunroof/Moonroof, Premium Package, Alloy Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (3 reviews) "Dealer responded promptly and researched several questions for me, then followed up with a survey after I let them know I had purchased elsewhere."
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2008 BMW 1 Series 128i Convertible Used Cars in Salem, OR 97301

Fair Deal
$316 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $17,316

Price: $17,000

Mileage: 63,421

Location: Salem, OR 97301

Average time on market: 32 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: Automatic Color: Tan Description: Used 2008 BMW 1 Series 128i Convertible for sale - $17,000, 63,421 miles with Bluetooth, Alloy Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (16 reviews) "Quick response but too far away"
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2010 BMW 1 Series 135i Used Cars in Hillsboro, OR 97123

Fair Deal
$106 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $21,061

Price: $20,955

Mileage: 58,975

Location: Hillsboro, OR 97123

Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 6-Speed Automatic Color: Cashmere Silver Metallic Description: Used 2010 BMW 1 Series 135i for sale - $20,955, 58,975 miles with Sunroof/Moonroof
Avg. Dealer Rating: (23 reviews) "We went to look at a slightly used 2015 Tyota Sienna XLE at Royal Moore in Beaverton. We were shocked to see the scratches and dings on the outside of the dirty van. Then the inside looked like it had never been detailed. Dirt smears in the backs if the seats, dirty carpet, dirt and crumbs on the seat and cup holders, scratches different places inside. I instantly thought if they dont care enough to clean up an almost new vehicle, what is their quality or honesty like. After looking at the Carfax report it said the vehicle was sold as a rental van for the first few months if its life. Then Royal Moore was said to detail it in May. Looks like they never did that. Thank God they didnt come down in price like we were asking because we went over to Gresham Nissan which was closer to our home, and purchased a brand new 2015 XLE Sienna for only $33,375 which was a steal! Only about $1400 more than this load of junk. The sales man at RM told us we probably just need to buy new if we werent willing to come up to their price, SO THANKFUL WE DIDNT! "
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2012 BMW 1 Series 135i Convertible Used Cars in Beaverton, OR 97005

Price: $29,650

Mileage: 0

Location: Beaverton, OR 97005

Average time on market: 35 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: Manual Color: Black Description: Used 2012 BMW 1 Series 135i Convertible for sale - $29,650, 0 miles with Bluetooth
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2013 BMW 1 Series 128i Convertible Used Cars in Beaverton, OR 97005

Price: $32,000

Mileage: 21,987

Location: Beaverton, OR 97005

Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: Automatic Color: Alpine White Description: Used 2013 BMW 1 Series 128i Convertible for sale - $32,000, 21,987 miles with Bluetooth, Leather Seats, Aluminum Wheels, Heat Package, Premium Package
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2011 BMW 1 Series 135i Convertible Used Cars in Beaverton, OR 97225

Fair Deal
$52 ABOVE
Instant Market Value of $27,764

Price: $27,816

Mileage: 15,061

Location: Beaverton, OR 97225

Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 6-Speed Manual Color: Jet Black Description: Used 2011 BMW 1 Series 135i Convertible for sale - $27,816, 15,061 miles with Premium Package, Alloy Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (24 reviews) "Why offer online if it's going to be managed with robot responses to get a person on the phone. I would have bought the car but the lag in actually responses and no one actually answering the online/email forum option resulted in several days and someone else buying the car. Why would I bother with the dealership any longer?"
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2012 BMW 1 Series 128i Used Cars in Salem, OR 97301

Fair Deal
$87 ABOVE
Instant Market Value of $21,913

Price: $22,000

Mileage: 37,352

Location: Salem, OR 97301

Average time on market: 41 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: Automatic Color: Black Description: Used 2012 BMW 1 Series 128i for sale - $22,000, 37,352 miles with Bluetooth, Aluminum Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (14 reviews) "I love the whole team, plus my new car is great!"
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2009 BMW 1 Series 135i Convertible Used Cars in Milwaukie, OR 97267

Fair Deal
$583 ABOVE
Instant Market Value of $17,412

Price: $17,995

Mileage: 96,979

Location: Milwaukie, OR 97267

Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: Automatic Color: Gray Description: Used 2009 BMW 1 Series 135i Convertible for sale - $17,995, 96,979 miles with Sport Package, Premium Wheels, Heat Package, Power Package, Premium Package, Climate Package
Avg. Dealer Rating: (8 reviews) "They lied about the car they were selling online and the transmission went out 5 days after buying it."
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