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2012 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ DVD 4WD Review
by Esibar

Dependable and boring.

Battery system is weaker for today's gadget loads. Nice height off ground. Backup camera is very strongly suggested. It makes life so much easier in this vehicle. Good gas milage when really warmed up on the highway. More truck like ride quality.

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2012 Honda Pilot EX Used Cars in Selma, TX 78154

Good Deal
$1,993 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $24,491

Price: $22,498

Mileage: 30,983

Location: Selma, TX 78154

Average time on market: 23 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic Color: Crystal Black Pearl Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot EX for sale - $22,498, 30,983 miles with Alloy Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (24 reviews) "Best experience at a car dealership I've ever had. Joel was and has been great even after the sale."
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2012 Honda Pilot Touring Used Cars in Live Oak, TX 78233

Good Deal
$2,202 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $26,851

Price: $24,649

Mileage: 64,429

Location: Live Oak, TX 78233

Average time on market: 27 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic Color: Alabaster Silver Metallic Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot Touring for sale - $24,649, 64,429 miles with Bluetooth, Backup Camera, Sunroof/Moonroof, Navigation System
Avg. Dealer Rating: (13 reviews) "Jeffrey Riley is one of their best salesmen."
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2012 Honda Pilot EX-L Used Cars in San Antonio, TX 78224

Good Deal
$1,268 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $26,042

Price: $24,774

Mileage: 45,125

Location: San Antonio, TX 78224

Average time on market: 26 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot EX-L for sale - $24,774, 45,125 miles with Sunroof/Moonroof, Alloy Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (17 reviews) "Contacted me promptly and followed up with me. They were very interested in helping me and answered all my questions. Really good communication!"
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2012 Honda Pilot Touring Used Cars in Boerne, TX 78006

Fair Deal
$834 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $25,829

Price: $24,995

Mileage: 73,750

Location: Boerne, TX 78006

Average time on market: 27 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: Automatic Color: Grey Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot Touring for sale - $24,995, 73,750 miles with Navigation System, Sunroof/Moonroof, Alloy Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (7 reviews) "Vehicle was sold but at least they responded. They are the first dealer on cargurus who has actually responded to an inquiry. I don't know why dealers bother to advertise with you when they won't follow up."
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2012 Honda Pilot EX-L Used Cars in San Antonio, TX 78257

Fair Deal
$722 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $24,513

Price: $23,791

Mileage: 60,155

Location: San Antonio, TX 78257

Average time on market: 26 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic Overdrive Color: White Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot EX-L for sale - $23,791, 60,155 miles with Bluetooth, Leather Seats, Sunroof/Moonroof, Alloy Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (2 reviews) "Fantastic dealership! No long waiting, very professional, best prices around town, and family/pet friendly! "
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2012 Honda Pilot LX Used Cars in Selma, TX 78154

Fair Deal
$535 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $22,529

Price: $21,994

Mileage: 33,390

Location: Selma, TX 78154

Average time on market: 17 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic Color: Polished Metal Metallic Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot LX for sale - $21,994, 33,390 miles with Alloy Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (24 reviews) "Excellent "
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2012 Honda Pilot EX Used Cars in San Antonio, TX 78224

Fair Deal
$136 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $24,127

Price: $23,991

Mileage: 35,695

Location: San Antonio, TX 78224

Average time on market: 23 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: Automatic Color: Silver Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot EX for sale - $23,991, 35,695 miles with Bluetooth, Aluminum Wheels
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2012 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD Used Cars in Boerne, TX 78006

Price: Negotiable

Mileage: 20,432

Location: Boerne, TX 78006

Average time on market: 27 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: Automatic Color: Dark Cherry Pearl Ii Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD for sale , 20,432 miles with Bluetooth, Leather Seats, Sunroof/Moonroof, Aluminum Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (16 reviews) "This review is my opinion. My honest review is written with no malicious intent. Just to inform other consumers of my experience. Proof can be provided. I first went to their dealership on January 13th to look at a used Buick Lucerne after seeing it on Cargurus.com. Bob responded to my request for information. Set up a test drive on the 13th with Bob. He had told me on the phone the car had a navigation system, which it did not. It was not a big deal to me. I know he can not know the details about every car on the lot. But after telling him that there was cigarette burns on the floor, he told me it was a non-smoker car. I left after a little pressure from him and Mark to buy right then. I told them I wanted to look at a couple of other cars before making a choice. Out of respect, I told him I would let him know what I found out. I emailed him and told him I was able to get a similar car, a year older for $2000 less in Seguin. Payment about $100 less. He calls me back the next day saying the dealership was lying. They didn't even run my credit, which I found odd. When I emailed him, I was holding in my hand the bank information. He said he ran my credit again to check. I don't know if that is even legal or common practice in the industry. But it was shocking to me that he could and would do that. My wife did not like the color of the one I had found in Seguin, so I decided I would go up to their dealership to get the Lucerne on their lot, but by pass Bob and try to get the price somewhere close to the other Lucerne. Test drove it again. On the second test drive, I noticed a popping in the engine compartment on acceleration. He had the used car service department look at it and said nothing could be found. I had told him the price I wanted to pay was $9200 because of the front end damage and cigarette burns. That was also what my bank said they would give for it. Being on disability, I couldn't afford more. Enter Brian. Finance Manager. He came and said that my bank required extra information and wouldn't go through for some reason. I think he said because I was on disability. But he had found a better rate and deal. This is after my bank approved my loan and told me to go shopping. He told me the price of the car would be $9500 and the bank required that I bought a $1400 warranty. There was also a price showing on the contract $11900. Brian told me that was from taxes and title etc. So I was fine with that. Four days later I had to call Brian to get the lender information as he had only given me the warranty information. He never returned my calls. Just mailed my contract. I called the lender to verify what Brian had said about the warranty. The guy with the lender laughed at me and said "buyer beware". It wasn't true. Obviously I was upset about Brian lying to me. Then going over the contract further, noticed he lied about the total sale price as well. Then the same day, I receive a call from my bank checking to see if everything was going well with car shopping. I told them what Brian had said. They said Brian lied about that too. I really don't know how that can be allowed. It is no different than stealing from someone. Theft by deception. So I call Fry the Finance Director to try to get to the bottom of the situation. After calling Fry five times in three days, I decided to drive out to Boerne again since Fry didn't seem to want to answer any voicemail, He actually did return my calls as I was heading out there. I sat with him and told him the situation. We cancelled the warranty Brian lied about. He also claimed he would "talk" to Brian about the situation. At this point I really don't believe he did. Feeling like this is probably common with dealerships to try to lie and steal from customers. Realizing car salesmen have a bad reputation for a reason. Also realizing finance guys are liars too. It is 100% my fault for not making sure I understood the contract, instead of trusting what Brian said. I do find it odd, their cameras do not pick up sound. Maybe, because there would be recorded proof of lying. While out there, Carolyn did opt to have the popping situation fixed. Which was a motor mount. And it is still popping. I had told the salesman I wouldn't buy the car until it was fixed. But was misled on that too. I later found out from David, they never fully checked it for my concern. They just checked for safety issues. Had it been diagnosed or known I was paying $10500 plus a $1400 garbage warranty, I would have never signed the contract. Especially when I could've purchased the same car $2000 cheaper in Seguin. But that just may be how the car sales industry operates. Zero integrity. Smoke and Mirrors. Trying to get this whole thing resolved, I went out to speak the GM Shawn (owners son) and was deflected. I was introduced to Chris (owners son-in law). He has to be one of the most smug, arrogant, condescending people I have met. Couldn't hardly stand a five minute conversation with him. He did tell me I could trade in or sell the car back to the dealership at around $8000. Why should I have to lose $2500 because Brian lied? I didn't do anything wrong except trust Brian. I know in their industry these sort of tactics are commended in the name of profit. Probably hi-fiving each other for every misleading deal. But every trip out is more informative of the amount of integrity located in their facility. Zero. I was lied to several times by Brian and Bob in this transaction. I have given their dealership several chances to correct the wrong, only to be approached with arrogance, zero integrity, zero accountability. When confronted with the news they would receive a bad review, I was offered $500 to sign a hold harmless agreement. Honesty and integrity are worth far more. When I refused, Shawn, the owners son, threatened me if I wrote a bad review. I couldn't stand myself not warning other consumers about my experience with their dealership. I really couldn't believe in the great state of Texas, I could be sued for speaking the truth. I realized on this transaction, family owned business doesn't mean they will treat you like family. GM (Shawn)is the owners son. General Sales Manager is the son-in-law(Chris). This family owned business seems to be operated on nepotism, affluenza, arrogance, lies, and greed. I guess not much different than other dealerships. Your customer service responses seem copied and pasted. Your "good" reviews are seemingly fabricated and disingenuous. Any other consumer, proceed with caution. It's your choice on where you shop. Speaks volumes for a dealership when they have to have a full-time employee just to handle complaints."
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2012 Honda Pilot EX-L Used Cars in San Antonio, TX 78249

Fair Deal
$466 ABOVE
Instant Market Value of $26,534

Price: $27,000

Mileage: 39,190

Location: San Antonio, TX 78249

Average time on market: 26 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic Overdrive Color: Polished Metallic Metallic Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot EX-L for sale - $27,000, 39,190 miles with Bluetooth, Leather Seats, Sunroof/Moonroof, Aluminum Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (13 reviews) "Found the car I was looking for. Thanks Chris."
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2012 Honda Pilot Touring Used Cars in San Antonio, TX 78233

Fair Deal
$512 ABOVE
Instant Market Value of $29,787

Price: $30,299

Mileage: 37,664

Location: San Antonio, TX 78233

Average time on market: 27 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic Overdrive Color: Gray Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot Touring for sale - $30,299, 37,664 miles with Bluetooth, Leather Seats, Sunroof/Moonroof, Aluminum Wheels, Navigation System
Avg. Dealer Rating: (20 reviews) "The service was fast and professional. They truly did all they could to get me in the car."
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2012 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ DVD Used Cars in San Antonio, TX 78224

Fair Deal
$502 ABOVE
Instant Market Value of $24,989

Price: $25,491

Mileage: 65,852

Location: San Antonio, TX 78224

Average time on market: 20 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic Overdrive Color: White Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ DVD for sale - $25,491, 65,852 miles with Bluetooth, Leather Seats, Aluminum Wheels, Sunroof/Moonroof
Avg. Dealer Rating: (5 reviews) "They contacted me in a timely manber and kindly worked with me while looking for a car. "
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2012 Honda Pilot Touring 4WD Used Cars in San Antonio, TX 78216

Fair Deal
$1,130 ABOVE
Instant Market Value of $29,735

Price: $30,865

Mileage: 45,790

Location: San Antonio, TX 78216

Average time on market: 27 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic Overdrive Color: Silver Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot Touring 4WD for sale - $30,865, 45,790 miles with Navigation System, Sunroof/Moonroof, Alloy Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (10 reviews) "I will be 50 next month. I bought my Mustang at Northside Ford. That was the best dealer experience I have ever had. I was out of there very quickly. "
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2012 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ DVD Used Cars in San Antonio, TX 78249

High Price
$1,228 ABOVE
Instant Market Value of $27,767

Price: $28,995

Mileage: 35,101

Location: San Antonio, TX 78249

Average time on market: 20 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic Overdrive Color: Taffeta White Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ DVD for sale - $28,995, 35,101 miles with Bluetooth, Leather Seats, Sunroof/Moonroof, Aluminum Wheels
Avg. Dealer Rating: (13 reviews) "They don't haggle, one price, inflated over KBB"
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2012 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Nav Used Cars in Selma, TX 78154

High Price
$1,970 ABOVE
Instant Market Value of $28,021

Price: $29,991

Mileage: 28,588

Location: Selma, TX 78154

Average time on market: 27 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic Color: White Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Nav for sale - $29,991, 28,588 miles with Navigation System
Avg. Dealer Rating: (24 reviews) "they are so nice when we came to the dealership when we make a deal they are complete different persons no even fill my gas tank they only put a little more of 1/4 of tank. why I don't know also they told me to call my insurance company to add my car right away"
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2012 Honda Pilot Touring Used Cars in Selma, TX 78154

High Price
$2,290 ABOVE
Instant Market Value of $30,202

Price: $32,492

Mileage: 33,880

Location: Selma, TX 78154

Average time on market: 27 days Certified Pre-Owned: No Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic Color: Gray Description: Used 2012 Honda Pilot Touring for sale - $32,492, 33,880 miles with Navigation System
Avg. Dealer Rating: (24 reviews) "Everyone at the dealership was great and I got the car I wanted at a great price. I would definitely buy another car there."
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