94 dodge stealth just puts new plugs in and it has a lot of knocking in motor. it ran fine prior to changing plugs. why would this happen
Asked by stormrider Apr 27, 2013 at 09:20 PM about the 1994 Dodge Stealth R/T FWD
Question type: Maintenance & Repair
what would cause knocking after changing plugs?
45 Answers
Did you use the proper length plug? And did you use platinum plugs?
stormrider answered 10 years ago
yes same length got plugs at orilleys platinum i believe yes
It's an interference engine. If threaded end of plug is not the same as stock plugs they may come in contact with top of piston. Also did you replace the wires? If so are you positive that they are installed in correct order?
Oh ok that's good. What else did you do other that the plugs?
migration_judge_roy answered 10 years ago
could the computer have reset itself for the new load draw?...creating a slightly sooner spark?
migration_judge_roy answered 10 years ago
if there is a way to reset the ECU, would seriously consider doing this, could be as simple as un-doing the negative for 30 seconds, then re-doing it first introducing a load without the negative connected to "cleanse" the system of parasitic galvonic currents- these things are goddamn sensitive, and battery corrosion can make them get weird~
stormrider answered 10 years ago
its a 3.0 rt no turbo with dual overhead cam
Is knock on front or back head or both?
stormrider answered 10 years ago
i could try that. couldnt hurt i imagine. its my sons car and i no electronics r a pain. i hate these cars with all the electronics.
migration_judge_roy answered 10 years ago
your knocking is/probably a vacuum hose what's cracked (replace with silicone) as it's cheapo mopar, saw 6 foot length of Gates, in attractive fleshy-tone or amazon or ebay have them, BMW, MINI and other european brands have switched off butyl-rubber, but it's hella cheap to mass-produce....higher idle, less power and coughs out easily all indicators of a vacuum leak, which could have happened while you brushed up against the lines...could check for a leak by waving an unlit propane torch over each line and see if the idle mellows out~
Did the plug wire boots snap in good and tight down thru the head?
stormrider answered 10 years ago
thought about putting old plugs back in to see what it would do
Torqued upper intake when re installed?
migration_judge_roy answered 10 years ago
your ECU continually adjusts itself based on the readings from the 02 sensor, the pressures at the evaporative unit, TPS, MAF, EGR, MAP and another 02 at the cat---makes performance decisions based on this info~ get your diagnostic readings rather than willy-nilly switchin' stuff out--- oK??
stormrider answered 10 years ago
i dont think its vacuum all hoses r in good shape. it ran fine prior to changing plugs but the old plugs where running rich and needed to be replaced over 100,000 on them
Judge might be on to something with the ecu. Disconnect battery for atleast ten minutes. This will reset everything.
stormrider answered 10 years ago
yes tighted back down, but didnt over tighten if u no what i mean.
hope just carbon buildup till burned out clear ,otherwise piston pin or rod bearing knock not showing till firing as should .
Ok. Plugs running rich? Might be timing issue. When was timing belt last replaced?
stormrider answered 10 years ago
ok thanks guys i will try what u both said.. see what happens
tune-up thru intake will clean carbon !
stormrider answered 10 years ago
i dont know when timing was last done.
migration_judge_roy answered 10 years ago
my buddy DavidH25 (bless his heart) suggested once to disconnect the negative, put the A/C on, pump the brakes five times, reconnect~ silly, ain't it?....sometimes the magic works...
Also what fuel you running? Has to be 93 octane or more. 10:1 compression ratio. If running cheaper gas with new hot plugs could be predetinating the fuel prior to piston at top dead center. This would cause a knocking sound.
migration_judge_roy answered 10 years ago
Think timing is the domain of the computer brain anymore...is like, don't mess with my decisions, now~
stormrider answered 10 years ago
anyway i got my boy disconnecting the battery. will see if it resets
The non turbos are 10:1 but the turbos ones are 8:1
stormrider answered 10 years ago
im not a mechanic. im a parts changer if u no what i mean. not a big motor head, but do have common sense. ive changed plugs in all my cars and trucks for years and never had a problem. thats why i like the old cars easier to work on. dont have all this electronic crap on it lol
If Davidh25 said it then I believe it. Will have to try that magic.
migration_judge_roy answered 10 years ago
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Hate to hear that. Our prayers are with him and his family.
migration_judge_roy answered 10 years ago
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what did you set the gaps on the plugs at ? also just wanted to mention that all years and models stealth and 3000gts are belts and not chains
I would be checking the firing order. It could be a pair of wires are on the wrong plugs. If the plugs were hitting the pistons, the center electrodes would be pushed up, the plug wouldn't fire and the engine wouldn't run.
I've done this more then once, check the wires, I've rushed, and put the wrong plug wires on the wrong spark plug. If thats the only thing you've done, that could be it!. and then check the gap of the plugs, there not gaped,right out of the box.Dodge Stealth 1994, Spark Plug by Motorcraft®, 1 Piece. Gap: .044. If you need to replace your worn-out spark plugs, Motorcraft is the way to go. Engineered specifically for your vehicle, their high melting point provides...