Why are Nissan Skylines illegal in the United States?
Nissan has not imported this car to the U.S. and it is not certified for sale here. First off it is right hand drive. It also does not meet the DOT emissions controls test. It also has not been crash tested and certified by the DOT. Nissan does not import the Skyline although the current Japanese Skyline two-door is the car known as the Infiniti G35 Coupe in America. Parts for this car are non-existent in the U.S. There are a few importers that can sell a legal Skyline in the U.S. but they are very expensive. right hand drive doesn't mean a thing. lots of silvias (S13s) are in the US. same with *some other imports. like a wrx, some rx7s.
Nissan Skyline's are illegal in parts of the USA as for number of reasons 1. The power out of a Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R Nismo is 280 Bhp on the Standard GT-R to 500 Bhp standard on the top of the Range GT-R. not only that they can get a BHP of round and over 1000 BHP 2. Most of the USA police forces cars are unable to keep up with the cars as their cars are mostly rear wheel drive where skylines are four wheel drive. 3. when you have an empty road a nissan skyline will gladly eat the roads with speeds from 155 mph to 200 MPH. pending what you have done to the cars My mate who has moved to america has a Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R Nismo Z-tune and is pushing 900 bhp with a top speed of round 194 mph he has Nos connected but not yet used it as hes never had to use it.
First off they are illegal in all parts of the US for road use that is unless they are those small few that were brought over by Motorex and made legal. 1.true 2.is bullshit because a lot of cars in america can out run a cop and it doesnt have to do with it being awd so that reason is thrown out the window. 3. is true but a lot of cars can go over 155mph anyway so that reason is also thrown out the window The only two reasons that they dont have the Skyline in the USA is because of the DOT laws and regulations. Doesnt pass the crash test or emission standards. The front and rear bumpers arent reinforced enough for US DOT standards. and i doubt your friend was one of the lucky millionaires/companies to buy the Z-Tune before it even came out.(Only 20 were ever made) Unless he bought it off some stupid guy wanted to get rid of it. and not to rant a give you shit but why would he put it on the bottle ? Dont you think that is useless and for people that are to lazy to mod out a turbo set up?
oh and also why the hell would you modify a z-tune which is a 500bhp car fully modfied perfectly for track ? that doesnt make any sense if you knew what you were talking about or if he did then he is ignorant.
not sure how true it is, but heard a rumor that general motors had a part in "toughening" the crash standards to make the gtr not meet standard. something about threat to domestic sports cars sales that corvette was rocking at the time. as for outrunning cops yeah thats a shit answer, veyron is awd out runs ops, and is legal, so are porsche. the crash standards IS why they dont come in, because the new GTR although not a skyline wass designed for sale in us, is awd, is a 200mph car stock, and can be purchased at your local nissan dealer
I went to russia bought one and i am legally driving it in the U.S.A only because the engine is different and i made some other modifications to it cost me 10 grand but im driving it legally
what do you mean by "the engine is different" and "i made some other modifications to it cost me 10 grand but im driving it legally", because im trying to bring a gtr or gtt to canada and want to know what exactly i need to mod. thnx
i will have to ask my mechanic he did most of the modifications do you have a facebook ???????/
The reasons are gas tank placemnt emissions, and other dot stuff, same reasons why some super exotics are not us allowed ..... porsche 959!
my skyline is legal so :P
thats good and how much do u have to pay to bring one to texas, united states
OK guys I have I friend named Justin Chirico look him up on YouTube and great has a supra pushing 1300 how and is hoping to get it to 1600 and it's top speed is 234 and it is street legal he drives it all the time to work...
Stupid spell check...lol
im think if u have one you can make it a showcar and get all that stuff and can drive it around legall
I thought infiniti was nissan
Just so you know the GT-R are legal now, and the skyline name is no longer. They dropped it when they released this Generation though its weird to just say GT-R. Go to Nissan USA ( http://www.nissanusa.com/buildyournissan/modelLine/build/2013/GTR ) and you can either order it or you can check availability. So Ya... The afore mentioned comments are outdated.... you will also note there is NO skyline name Anywhere on their site
I think your right as the infiniti is labelled G35 I believe without the skyline anywhere. Kinda sad they dropped the skyline heritage as it doesn't immediately describe the quality and history of your car if your in the US
because they dont stand up to the crash standierds of the us but the gt-s and gtr's made from jan 1st of 1996 to march something of 1998 can be imported from japan to the united states unless the car is 25 and older with no modifications to make it us legal.... im in japan now for 2 years going to bring on back to the states and ive seen so many skylines since iv been here
i was going to get a skyline for my first car but ive found out that its illegal to have one but i think if you modified the body with carbon fiber body front and rear bumber it could pass crash test and if you do fuel injection to move gas tank under car with a little muffler work to make space for it cause it uses 15 gallon tank it would cost alot but maybe could pass carbon fiber is strong so it would pass crash test install newer airbags in passanger driver and back it would run about 7k for the carbon and air bag for the gas tank that that a little time just dont go to any car shop go to a pro who does race cars or custom engine work to get gas tank moved because the tank is connected with fuel injector and fuel regulater i think thats how the r34 is set up that runs about 4k because its not installing performance parts or repairing
i think nissan drop skyline from gtr in the new gtr r35 to make it legal i think
By 2015 or 2020 i forget which year but the R34 will become legal in the US because it will then be a classic car. I was reading up on it and if it becomes a classic car then DOT has no say weather it is legal or not.
The reason a Skyline is illegal is because of NHTSA, DOT, and EPA regulations. There are a few R32's and R34's that were made compliant by MOTOR-EX in the late 90's early 2000's, but the company was shut down for not performing the necessary modifications on the cars. They were also expensive. After they were shut down, the US government banned all importation of the Skyline. Then later they amended this when a company petitioned for the reinstatement of the import doing the needed crash test to find out what modifications were needed. They were given a confidentiality agreement and the only skylines allowed for import are the R33's manufactured between 06/1996 and 07/1998. The only company that can modify these cars is JK TECHNOLOGIES. Another RI (registered importer) can attempt the modifications but with no access to the results from the a fore mentioned company they have to show that the work is up to the standards set by the US.
lol after reading all of these "answers" i saw only about 2 that were really right on with what they were talking about .. i own an r33gtr you want the real scoop on why ??? here it goes ... motorex was a company based out of california .. they imported a handful of r33 gts gts-t's and gtr's and began doing crash tests on them .. they showed the results to the feds and showed them what they were going to modify on the cars to bring them up to safety , and emission standards . and the feds approved their plans .. now with that being said ... motorex started bringing in r32's r33's and r34's and began selling cars to the public for a fat price tag ... the thing is .. is that motorex never brought in and crash tested r32's and r34's .. they used the results of the 33's they crash tested for the 32's and 34's and the fed's found out they were different generations from the r33 they shut down motorex for bringing in and selling cars that had no crash test results .. all r32's and 34's that were already sold were grandfathered in .. the fed's kept 33's eligible for import between march 96 - july 98 .. and are still available to import now.. it has NOTHING to do with how fast they are or any of that .. its strictly because japan has different emission standards and safety standards than the U.S does .. now if you were to buy an r33 between those years .. 1.you would pay for the car and taxes in japan .. 2.pay for the container and freight to have it shipped to your local port .. 3. pay the U.S government 1/3 of the cars value for buying outside of the U.S 4. pay a registered importer to bring the car up to the specs of nhtsa . dot . epa and federal regulations within 120 days of it hitting u.s soil ... parts , labor blah blah blah 5. pay to have the car bonded by both the state you reside in and by the federal government .. 6. after the car is brought up to specs by the R.I you have it inspected by the fed's and they have to sign off and give you the stamp of approval .. 7. then find a company to insure it so you can legally drive on the roads .. and after you spent alllll that money to get it here and get it legal and legit you gonna put just liability on it ? HELL NO but the thing is they cant just go source another federally legal skyline without doing all the steps i just said again.. so there for .. full coverage is somewhere around 1000/month depending on your age and driving record .. 32's and 34's are illegal because no acceptable crash test info was provided ..
Bo, ur right on every point except one, when the feds found out about motorex, they outlawed the importation of ALL skylines the R33 included. it is illegal to bring in ANY Skyline of ANY sort into the US, there is a specific clause regarding them on the feds importation site. So it wouldnt be possible to bring in R33s anymore, even if they were made "US legal"
http://www.nhtsa.gov/search? q=vehicles+eligible+for+import&x=0&y=0 check the first link ... shows all non conforming vehicles that ARE eligible for import .. list was updated march 2011 if you look it shows nissan skyline r33 gts and gtr models .. i own an r33 gtr buddy.. i did my research
okay my link will take you to the search bar .. type in "vehicles eligible for import" .. click the first link and download the pdf file .. scroll down to nissan and see for your self
interestingly it seems you're right....and it seems to be possible to grab R32s and R34s for "show or display" purposes as well according to that manifest. however I would caution that each and every time I have seen a skyline of any model get unloaded at the docks in Ca it has been seized and crushed, and it happens decently often. On the other hand it seems only an RI is eligible to import them, which may have something to do with it
yeah you can grab a 34 or 32 for show/race only purposes .. but if you do that someone will come check your odometer to make sure it doesnt do over like 5,000 miles a year or some figure like that . and yes only R.I's can bring them in but if you go to the NHTSA or whatever's page of listed registered importers there arent any that bring in cars just parts ..
all sorts of retarded.... its like the US has a personal vendetta against skylines....its not like we dont have a ton of other cars coming from places like europe or even other japanese cars that come in, yet for some reason the skyline is so much worse. So I guess if there are no RIs to import cars/trucks....well then it makes sense why all the skylines I see get impounded as soon as they get off the docks. on the other hand in....I think 2014 the 1989 R32s will be considered collectors items and should be able to be brought in without too many problems and without getting totally redone, that is, if the US NHTSA or whatever doesnt put some law into effect to stop it.
oh also on an interesting note, I have a few friends who have skylines, either state titled and they are military (Ca doesnt do state titles so they are state titled in other states) or badged/vinned as nissan 240sx (very illegal). thought it was kinda funny, I have now had 2 friends who have received letters from some branch of the govt. telling them the govt. had been made aware that they owns a skyline (gtst 32 and an gtr34) and to bring it to a state run place of some sort so it can be seized and destroyed and if they dont comply the govt. (dont remember the name of the branch) will be coming to their house to forcefully seize it. as you can guess, they both hid their skylines at a shop...they've had em there for like a bit over 2 years for the first and about a year for the second and neither almost ever take em out. it really shows the lengths that the govt. goes to to get rid of these things. There apparently seems to be some govt. agency in charge of getting rid of these cars....I couldnt believe the govt. would even bother spending money on this but there it is....
What are RIs? and thank you for the info. guys, it's been very informative. i still will do my best to import an R34 I don't care if I have to hide it. I just got to own that car.
by the way Bo, awsome car!
Nissan doesn't make the skyline, (IF YOU WERE GOING TO BUY ONE-atleast the older models, 01 and such), to not interfere with the government YOU CAN GET AN R-34 (WE HAVE ONE), we as in uncle, you have to purchase it from NissanI is the name of the sub-division, as a Kit car, and assemble it here, the motor one, body one, and transmission one, once you do, good luck with insurance
I have a hard on
RI stands for registered importer. There are several to choose from but only one I know of that can bring them in. As far as the guy who said Nissan doesn't make the skyline I don't know what your smoking but your wrong it is a Nissan product. You can purchase a kit car but it will either be a replica or a true skyline that was dismantled and shipped in which is fine unless the government finds out then they will seize the car and crush it. You can currently buy a 6/96-7/98 skyline R-32 and have it shipped in. The company you want to use as an RI is JK Technologies they currently are the only company that has a structural plan on file with the government to do the modifications required. They quoted me $30,000 for the work as long as it passed emissions. You still have to pay for the car plus shipping and all dock fees. Hope this helps.
dude my uncle has one, say what u want, WE imported it, and drive it, R-34....not A replica, and it is known as a Nissan, but on ALL LEGAL DOCUMENTS IT IS A NISSANI, A SUBDIVISION of Nissan, I assure you
Bo is right, JUST PARTS, YOU ASSEMBLE IT YOURSELF: motor in one container, the transmission in one, and shell/body in a third,
The question is is it true Nissan parts or replica parts because every title I've seen ( ill admit that it's not many and are from true full car imports) say Nissan as stated on the car. If so would like the ph# or web address where I can find out cost of import don't mind doing the mechanical work.
yes authentic Nissani is on the paper work, Nissan logos,(just like TRD is a division) trying to figure out how to post the pics for you guys to prove authenticity now
That I know of Nissan is the mother company with infiniti as a luxury brand owned by Nissan which was once Datsun. Also, the motorsports division of Nissan is Nismo. So, it's a bit confusing never heard of Nissani and I am diehard fan of Nissan. I might just do the break down plan and wait until it becomes a classic or just look for an "RI" that's quite cheap which I doubt it. One thing is for sure, if people have them here already im going own one too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNE8wkSN3qs a crappy video someone posted of my uncles (he owns porter and chester) in Branford, Ct. I can find more, i am sure, i drove it before also, left hand manual is different
I belive Nissani is how they pronounce it in japan; however, is you have a link or somehow to contact that company i would appreciate it. So far JK Technologies looks legit.
WAW!!! That's a lot of info; I just sat here and read this whole thread, old, but lots of info. I'm also fascinated with Skylines, particularly the R34s. Reading this makes me realize that it's practically impossible for me to own one right now, unless I invest all my money into it. As Cyril said, it would seem the US has some personal vendetta against it. I mean c'mon, impounding and crushing it!? :-(( I would cry if i witnessed that. Maybe one day i'll transfer to Japan where I can finally own one with no worries (military). But until then, I've got my baby, an 04 G35 Coupe that I like very much. Don't have a skyline yet, but I'm riding her cousin ;-) in the mean while.
Hey guys, I am in Japan right now in the military. The only way right now to get a Skyline out of here is if they are 25 years or older. Everybody here is buying there 89's for at least $10,000. I actually see one 83 for $16,000. I own a 96, I pay $5,000 or the car and one of the things is that the cars in here are lighter than the ones in the states. I am not paying to modify my to take back to the states I am just enjoying it here and then sale it before I leave.
Now I seen a Nissan GTR R35 in PA,USA. Now tell me that isnt right. Gotta be joking. But we can get the 240sx (S13) and the GT-86 by Toyota and even the Toyota AE-86 Levins here in the USA.
Man, I wanted an R34 but now. Those morons in the FMVSS Crushed my one and only dream of having an awesome car "Government Cracking Down On Nissan Skyline Owners" Those fools love to ruin people's recreation what are they going to do next? Ban LEGO toys? Looks like I'd have to settle for a 350Z or a 240SX
With all this being said I own both an r32 and an r34 v-spec II the paper work sucks to have it done cost a crap load of money for a good one and I get stopped all the time when I drive the r34 not to take it but ask what it is if u have the money and want one of the greatest cars ever built go for it its harder to get the Porsche's 959 than it is the skyline
Just how they are using emissions as an excuse when Japan is far more anal about emissions when U.S have their horrible trucks killing the trees, especially with their turbo diesels. You are better of not get stuck behind one of those they''ll just leave a big o smoke cloud in front of you. Had this happen multiple times and its worse when a cop sees it and don't do anything about it. U.S. is such a hypocrite country, sadly I am from U.S.
Jesse is right while the trucks are cool they have the worst fuel economy
I have the best solution guys. Move to australia. You can get an R33s, 32s starting at $4000-$5000. And it's purely legal.
Nissan GTR with GTR badges in Jackson Tennessee. I know the man who owns it and said he bought it legally.
hey john, your uncles an asshat who cant drive for jack shit. he grinded the fuck out of first gear in an R34 he should swallow an ounce of armed C4
First off no of you really have a clue because its illegal for it emissions that's it. The crash test isn't apart of it. The AWD has nothing to do with it and right hand drive has nothing to do with. There's already over 100 of them in the USA and the have been modified with exhaust equipment to be legal so I bit my thumb at you twits.
I'm just happy i spent an hour reading all of this. I contacted JK Industries in MD and are waiting to begin the process of importing an 96-98 R33. My only question is in regards to the importing. Can you important the vehicle from the UK? I have friends over there looking for me now. I don't know anyone in Japan.
you didnt make any mods. First off with a gtr or a gtt your cant flip shit around and make it okay to drive for only 10 grand! i imported a honda integra type R from japan and it is fully built and im driving it along with my skyline gtr. there is no rule in america that says you can not own and or drive one in the US. sorry kid but you dont own shit and if you do then you did not do mods to it so you can drive it in the US for 10 grand due to that would be stupid pointless and the dumbest thing to ever do. oh by the way the only reason why a car is ever banded is because it is faster then cop cars thats why in japan if you are flying by a cop at more then 190 they wont even bother with you. Its now 2013 cops are faster now. and a stock gtr or gtt is okay to have do to the HP isnt over the max. good luck bud
You can its going to run about 1000 for shipping plus 400 to ship it in carrier
Thanks cr1pton. I keep reading about people getting there cars crushed once they've reached port. How did you get around that with your gtr? Did you mod it before shipping? If so, who did the work and can you send me there info? Much appreciated!
i live in Oregon it came right off the boat. they cant crush it do to you can sue the fuck out of them if they do so. i did nothing to it. it came in stock but now i own one of the fastest cars in Oregon since i built it up. i do all my work on the cars. If you go on youtube you'll see my car. type this in and you'll see you can own one and drive it. this in when i first got it. http://youtu.be/QalnK5mxBj8 oh and by the way america makes skylines look it up its the 2013 and a 2014 one that are fast as fuck
So if I were to want a skyline without spending a butt load of money how would I do it? From what I understand from reading this I have to go through an RI, get it inspected, get whatever needs done to meet standards, and then get it insured, or get one over 25 years old.
That's what I've come to understand though some believe that the additional precautions are not necessary. If I had 60k to spend I'd just by a 2009 GTR. You can find Registered GTR's in this country, their just pricey. I'd rather buy a low mileage unmolested GTR from Japan. Or find one here.
So from what I understand, from carcrusher, is that when I import one I dont have to add the extra precautions. Could you explain that to me? I'm not understanding what you mean by that. If you haven't noticed from my username is im a fan of american, nonimport, cars and im trying to wrap my mind around how to get one. I do like imports though and the skyline is one of my favorites by far.
I'm still waiting to hear back from a lawyer regarding this. I'll let you know as soon as I know
Sorry, having to post some test answers to track down an issue
hahhahah sucks for all of you guys im the us im in canada and next year this car will be legal cuz its 15 years old and im probilly gonna get one:D iv seen a bunch of r32's r33's and r35's only one left is the R34 cant wait:D and if you want one just import it to canada and drive it all u want and you dont even have to make any mods to it.
So can someone tell me how much it would cost to get an r33 to the USA
I'm assuming this is a joke. What happened to America's cars? They ended up fat. I loved my '71 camaro,I loved my cousin's '60 Vette and my brother's '68GTO. Lean,tight,uncomfortable cars that were exciting to jump into and drive. American muscle turned into 'American Plush-Velour' very soon after. You need to test-drive a new Porsche or Cadillac and re-orient your mind-set. A new Porsche Panemera is a 4-door Vette,with decent gas mileage,and nicer smells.
I have a 2001 Infiniti G20 sedan. Is this car a 4-door Skyline? I like my car,but it's super-wimpy. I constantly make sure the 'handbrake' isn't on! Can this be upgraded to Skyline Status ?
I did some research and it says it illegal for the emissions?!?!? COME ON!!!!!!! I Mean the country is already polluted enough by other cars
G20 is a maxima. And there are definatly ways to get a skyline. Money talks
There is a R34 GT-R V Spec for sale in CT http:// www.dupontregistry.com/autos/ search/DRauSearchDetails.aspx? itemid=1555559 not sure if it's legit but it looks worth looking into if you're looking for one. Also there is this page on Facebook for a company that will import R32's or older from Japan. I'll post that link as well once I find the page again
its the older model GTRs they wont let drive in the USA. I live in the middle of the US and i see 2008+ GTRs on the road all the time! They are safer than most american cars and handle better with AWD. Only reason on the older ones is safety they say. but once you pay an import company $50k-80k you might get it on the road. first it was the clear lenses but then they chance it to something else. They can do over 200 mph on pump gas this could be another "reason" they wont allow them. But they allowed the 2005 Porsche Carrera GT that killed Paul walker and Rodas. now those are a death trap! So f*&$^ the NHTSA !
i found a skyline in tucson az. http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/4241691871.html
Wow that thing is sick!!
so i can get one imported and thru customs if its only for off road purposes such as track show or race with out doing a thing to it?
So could anyone tell me if they'll ever be legal in the US ir if there's any way there could be one in the US legally
" So could anyone tell me if they'll ever be legal in the US ir if there's any way there could be one in the US legally" As long as it is at least 25 years old or a MotoRex Skyline. Check out Nostalgia Imports. They are selling 1989 R32 GTS-T's and in March will start doing preorders for 1989 R32 GTR's
About their crash worthness, I watch a driver lose it on the Road Atlanta straightaway last summer. He apparently saw the open road ahead and came on too fast. He lost traction and veered into the inside wall. The car then tumbled for 4 or five times kinda end over end with a couople of rolls thrown in. When all the dust settled the car was a lot shorter. It was quite a while before he raised is hand out of the window but he walked away, unhurt. My son who instructs for the Porsche club said the Skyline was new but didn't know much else. The track oas open for timeed laps and my son was giving his mother a thrilling ride. He was just behind the Nissan and came up for a close view. His mother hasn't said much about a second ride.
I personally own a 2013 Nissan GTR R-35 and I'm very happy with it. But I really love the R-34. But the R-35 will have to do... for now
For those of you who don't seem to know much about this, the NHTSA has a 25 year exemption on imported cars. This means that any JDM car that is 25 years old or older can be legally imported into the U.S without having to be modified for emissions are safety regs. This includes the Skylines. As of now the 1989 R32 is now able to be legally imported into the States. So in 5 more years, the R34's will be available for legal import into the States
Full list of all exceptions http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/sdlist040109.pdf
The skyline is not illegal in Michigan this also includes the Nissan GTR because Michigan has just got a gtr where I live I have seen it so they now allowing to be used
I own a towing company in Southern California and work with a police agency that impounded quite a few Skylines. I have court orders to crush...yes, crush every one of them as they are illegal here in the us. I am aloud to sell various "parts" off of them before they are destroyed. If anyone is interested in buying parts, please contact me by email at Archiestow@aol.com
Hello guys I want to buy a skyline but I don't understand the regulations on having one , and I live in California please someone help, that's the car
Iam lookin for a nissan skyline r32 gtr anyone know where i can find one
@ MarioandFawn The Skyline R32 GTR is not legal for import into the U.S until 2015 unless you're willing to fill out some crazy ass paper work and only want to drive it a limited amount of miles per year for the next year. You can however get the R32 GTS-T legally imported with minimal paper work if you have the cash to throw down on one. I suggest you hit up Nostalgia Imports. They specialize in importing U.S legal JDM cars into the States
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