Porsche 959 - Canada

Yuri Hajtko
5

Asked by Yuri Sep 21, 2008 at 06:36 PM about the 1989 Porsche 959

Question type: General

Are there any Porsche 959's in Canada?

7 Answers

Matt Stewart
15

I'm sure there are some private sales, but it will be pretty rare to find out. Hell, they're even rare here in America. Your best bet would probably to go over the border (if you live close enough) and check out the Detroit area for some.

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Adam Morgan
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Likely more per cap than America considering they were only gray market imports here, due to them not being crash tested. If you're looking to buy one, you'll likely have to travel to pick one up anyway so check Du Pont registry, rennlist, and your local Porsche club for finding one. You may find on on Pelican parts or a similar site with forums, but it would be rare... Do an internet search for "959 registry" you'll find something I'm sure.

Robert Bosch
15

Yuri, the 959 is a fantastic car. Pervious posts are correct that when the 959 group B racer was first produced, it was not posible to "legally" import. One in particular was sold to a successful software company owner. Bill did everything he could to get it imported, but for the time he had to visit BC to drive it. I believe it was about four years later the laws changed restricting the import of unusual cars built in low production. Be wary of false 959 look-a-likes that will waist your time. I have seen some pretty good ones, but the real 959's are a full four inches wider in the middle of the cab. They have completely different glass and interior to make up for the added width. This is a reasonable link for info on the different vertions of the car... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_959 Bottom line is that Canada should have more than it's share of the cars do to the restrictions placed in them when first built. I would as mentioned contact a Porsche Club of Canada member. Best of luck. It is one of my all time fab cars.

Fred McClelland
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no your wrong on that one the 959 was illegal because of the crash test ratings and emissions. Bill gates and his partner actually both bought the 959 in germany and wanted it back in the states. When it came down to it bill gates took his best company programmers and made a complete simulation of the 959 crash test and he got to keep his. But as for his partner he had to ship his back the munich or where ever. There was a little article about this in car and driver a couple years ago. they probably are legal in canada cause there old enough just like skyline there is probably a year cut off in canada. Every 15 years i think if its older then it is legal.

torontoworker
20

"no your wrong on that one the 959 was illegal because of the crash test ratings and emissions. Bill gates and his partner actually both bought the 959 in germany and wanted it back in the states. When it came down to it bill gates took his best company programmers and made a complete simulation of the 959 crash test and he got to keep his." If you even knew what you were talking about you still know less then most about the 959 situation in the US. Both Allens and Gate's 959's (along with 22 others) were kept at the back of Holbert Porsche. The cars were imported under a bit of a scam in that PCNA looked the other way as Holbert took deposits on the car and they were imported as 'race cars'. The deal that Holbert (who was said to have beec hired as Porsche USA motorsports boss and shortly thereafter dieing in a plane crash) was going to take care of the ECU work, cat install and one of the cars was to have the frame put on a sled and crash tested with the NTHC watching. All of this went no where after he died and the cars sat in the back of his facility as the cars were found out to have been imported under false stated use, (illegal). None were race cars stated to be used in a one make race 959 series as the paper work stated. The cars *should* have been subjected to the 120 day 'in country' deadlines to make the cars pass EPA, CARB and NTSB standards. As a result of being in the country past the 120 days - the cars had seals placed upon their doors with a notice that these cars are 'impounded' by the US Customs branch and removal is subject to arrest. And they they sat and sat and... etc. In the meantime, several owners of these cars contacted the US Customs office to ask permission to remove their cars back to Germany and this was granted. Several US owners had offers from Europe and the middle East and in fact made quite a bit of money in the long run. The hard count on how many cars were left after this is fuzzy but one PCA member who used to look over the fence when ever his car was in for service est that there were still a 12-15 cars there up to 2000. The widow of the Holbert estate was the driving force behind the cars leaving the dealership when she sold her part ownership in the business. PCNA then had to find a place to store the cars and thereafter some were to a wherehouse in Vegas subject to Customs agreement. Everything changed for the 959 when the 'show and display' law was passed in the US as these cars could now be plated and driven as long as their total yearly mileage did not go over 2000 miles per year I beleive. There was also a requirenment that the cars had to pass the CARB tests even if not located in Calf. "But as for his partner he had to ship his back the munich or where ever." The car was shipped back simply because he gave up waiting for it and could make a few dollars on the sale. It is rumored to be in UAE now. "they probably are legal in canada cause there old enough just like skyline there is probably a year cut off in canada. Every 15 years i think if its older then it is legal." Not factual. The car (and there are a few in Canada - a white one currently in Montreal) never had the Transport Canada stickers on them. Pretty much driven up here over the last 5 years with US plates and then sold - the plates removed and the owners flew home. The cars remained. Several do track days only. I've never seen one with a QC or Ont plate on them.

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ngocchau
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If I had enough money just like those billionaires who ones Porsche 959 , I would buy 4 of them (couple millions, right?) and give them to the government for the crash test. And then, buy some mint condition ones for myself! Bought the car, and then couldn't drive it because they didn't want to spend some "pennies" for the crash test in order to be legal? Not me! I would change all that if I had that kind of money in hand! And, help the poor right after, of course!

MasterB
0

I saw one in person in Canada years ago at the porsche concours in Ontario.

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